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From: Lee Schermerhorn <Lee.Schermerhorn@hp.com>
To: Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	hugh@veritas.com, linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, taka@valinux.co.jp,
	marcelo.tosatti@cyclades.com, kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] Swapless page migration V2: Overview
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 10:14:43 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1145024083.5211.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0604131721340.15802@schroedinger.engr.sgi.com>

On Thu, 2006-04-13 at 17:27 -0700, Christoph Lameter wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Apr 2006, Andrew Morton wrote:
> 
> > > Currently page migration is depending on the ability to assign swap entries
> > > to pages. However, those entries will only be to identify anonymous pages.
> > > Page migration will not work without swap although swap space is never
> > > really used.
> > 
> > That strikes me as a fairly minor limitation?
> 
> Some people want never ever to use swap. Systems that have no swap defined 
> will currently not be able to migrate pages. Its kind of difficult to 
> comprehend that you need to have swap for migration, but then its not 
> going to be used. 
> 
> > > The patchset will allow later patches to enable migration of VM_LOCKED vmas,
> > > the ability to exempt vmas from page migration, and allow the implementation
> > > of a another userland migration API for handling batches of pages.
> > 
> > These seem like more important justifications.  Would you agree with that
> > judgement?
> 
> The swapless thing is the most important for us because many of our 
> customers do not have swap setup. Then follow the above 
> features then the efficiency consideration.

I do have the migration cache working against 17-rc1-mm2.  I tried to
address Christoph's prior comments.  I just haven't posted yet, as I was
working the migrate-on-fault/auto-migration series.  If one accepts lazy
migration, then the migration cache becomes more important because anon
pages can/will stay in the swap cache until the page is finally freed
[or maybe gets evicted from the swap cache?].

The migration cache still uses the swap infrastructure, so must
configure SWAP.  But, no swap devices need be configured.  Should
address that particular concern w/o major surgery to the existing
migration code.  

 Let me know if I should repost the patches.  Meanwhile, they're
available at:  
http://free.linux.hp.com/~lts/Patches/PageMigration/ [which seems
temporarily, I hope, unavailable].  Look for the migcache tarball.

Lee


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Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-04-13 23:54 [PATCH 0/5] Swapless page migration V2: Overview Christoph Lameter
2006-04-13 23:54 ` [PATCH 1/5] Swapless V2: try_to_unmap() - Rename ignrefs to "migration" Christoph Lameter
2006-04-13 23:54 ` [PATCH 2/5] Swapless V2: Add migration swap entries Christoph Lameter
2006-04-14  0:13   ` Andrew Morton
2006-04-14  0:29     ` Christoph Lameter
2006-04-14  0:42       ` Andrew Morton
2006-04-14  0:46         ` Christoph Lameter
2006-04-14  1:01           ` Andrew Morton
2006-04-14  1:17             ` Andrew Morton
2006-04-14  1:31               ` Christoph Lameter
2006-04-14  5:25                 ` Andrew Morton
2006-04-14 14:27                   ` Lee Schermerhorn
2006-04-14 16:01                   ` Christoph Lameter
2006-04-14  1:31             ` Christoph Lameter
2006-04-14  5:29               ` Andrew Morton
2006-04-14 17:28                 ` Implement lookup_swap_cache for migration entries Christoph Lameter
2006-04-14 18:31                   ` Andrew Morton
2006-04-14 18:48                     ` Christoph Lameter
2006-04-14 19:15                       ` Andrew Morton
2006-04-14 19:22                         ` Christoph Lameter
2006-04-14 19:53                           ` Andrew Morton
2006-04-14 20:12                             ` Christoph Lameter
2006-04-14 21:51                             ` Wait for migrating page after incr of page count under anon_vma lock Christoph Lameter
2006-04-17 23:52                               ` migration_entry_wait: Use the pte lock instead of the " Christoph Lameter
2006-04-14  0:36     ` [PATCH 2/5] Swapless V2: Add migration swap entries Christoph Lameter
2006-04-13 23:54 ` [PATCH 3/5] Swapless V2: Make try_to_unmap() create migration entries Christoph Lameter
2006-04-13 23:54 ` [PATCH 4/5] Swapless V2: Rip out swap portion of old migration code Christoph Lameter
2006-04-13 23:54 ` [PATCH 5/5] Swapless V2: Revise main migration logic Christoph Lameter
2006-04-14  1:19   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2006-04-14  1:33     ` Christoph Lameter
2006-04-14  1:40       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2006-04-14  2:34       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2006-04-14  2:44         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2006-04-14 17:29           ` Preserve write permissions in migration entries Christoph Lameter
2006-04-14 16:48         ` [PATCH 5/5] Swapless V2: Revise main migration logic Christoph Lameter
2006-04-15  0:06           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2006-04-15 17:41             ` Christoph Lameter
2006-04-17  0:18               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2006-04-17 17:00                 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-04-18  0:04                   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2006-04-18  0:27                     ` Christoph Lameter
2006-04-18  0:42                       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2006-04-18  1:57                         ` Christoph Lameter
2006-04-18  3:00                           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2006-04-18  3:16                             ` Christoph Lameter
2006-04-18  3:32                               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2006-04-18  6:58                                 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-04-18  8:05                                   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2006-04-18  8:27                                     ` Christoph Lameter
2006-04-18  9:08                                       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2006-04-18 16:49                                         ` Christoph Lameter
2006-04-14  0:08 ` [PATCH 0/5] Swapless page migration V2: Overview Andrew Morton
2006-04-14  0:27   ` Christoph Lameter
2006-04-14 14:14     ` Lee Schermerhorn [this message]

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