From: Lee Schermerhorn <Lee.Schermerhorn@hp.com>
To: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
Cc: blaisorblade@yahoo.it, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Memory Management <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [patch 00/14] remap_file_pages protection support
Date: Tue, 02 May 2006 13:16:46 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1146590207.5202.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4456D5ED.2040202@yahoo.com.au>
On Tue, 2006-05-02 at 13:45 +1000, Nick Piggin wrote:
> blaisorblade@yahoo.it wrote:
> 
> > The first idea is to use this for UML - it must create a lot of single page
> > mappings, and managing them through separate VMAs is slow.
> 
> I don't know about this. The patches add some complexity, I guess because
> we now have vmas which cannot communicate the protectedness of the pages.
> Still, nobody was too concerned about nonlinear mappings doing the same
> for addressing. But this does seem to add more overhead to the common cases
> in the VM :(
> 
> Now I didn't follow the earlier discussions on this much, but let me try
> making a few silly comments to get things going again (cc'ed linux-mm).
> 
> I think I would rather this all just folded under VM_NONLINEAR rather than
> having this extra MANYPROTS thing, no? (you're already doing that in one
> direction).
<snip>
One way I've seen this done on other systems is to use something like a
prio tree [e.g., see the shared policy support for shmem] for sub-vma
protection ranges.  Most vmas [I'm guessing here] will have only the
original protections or will be reprotected in toto.  So, one need only
allocate/populate the protection tree when sub-vma protections are
requested.   Then, one can test protections via the vma, perhaps with
access/check macros to hide the existence of the protection tree.  Of
course, adding a tree-like structure could introduce locking
complications/overhead in some paths where we'd rather not [just
guessing again].  Might be more overhead than just mucking with the ptes
[for UML], but would keep the ptes in sync with the vma's view of
"protectedness".
Lee
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Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20060430172953.409399000@zion.home.lan>
2006-05-02  3:45 ` [patch 00/14] remap_file_pages protection support Nick Piggin
2006-05-02  3:56   ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-02 11:24     ` Ingo Molnar
2006-05-02 12:19       ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-02 17:16   ` Lee Schermerhorn [this message]
2006-05-03  1:20     ` Blaisorblade
2006-05-03 14:35       ` Lee Schermerhorn
2006-05-03  0:25   ` Blaisorblade
2006-05-06 16:05     ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-05-07  4:22       ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-13 14:13         ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-13 18:19           ` Valerie Henson
2006-05-13 22:54             ` Valerie Henson
2006-05-16 13:30             ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-16 13:51               ` Andreas Mohr
2006-05-16 16:31                 ` Valerie Henson
2006-05-16 16:47                   ` Andreas Mohr
2006-05-17  3:25                     ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-17  6:10                     ` Blaisorblade
2006-05-16 16:33               ` Valerie Henson
2006-05-03  0:44   ` Blaisorblade
2006-05-06  9:06     ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-06 15:26       ` Ulrich Drepper
     [not found] ` <20060430173025.752423000@zion.home.lan>
2006-05-02  3:53   ` [patch 11/14] remap_file_pages protection support: pte_present should not trigger on PTE_FILE PROTNONE ptes Nick Piggin
2006-05-03  1:29     ` Blaisorblade
2006-05-06 10:03       ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-07 17:50         ` Blaisorblade
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