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From: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Cc: Nick Piggin <piggin@cyberone.com.au>,
	clameter@sgi.com, torvalds@osdl.org, ak@suse.de,
	rohitseth@google.com, mbligh@google.com, hugh@veritas.com,
	riel@redhat.com, andrea@suse.de, arjan@infradead.org,
	apw@shadowen.org, mel@csn.ul.ie, marcelo@kvack.org,
	anton@samba.org, paulmck@us.ibm.com, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 1/3] tracking dirty pages in shared mappings -V4
Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 09:06:01 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1147417561.8951.17.camel@twins> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060511213045.32b41aa6.akpm@osdl.org>

On Thu, 2006-05-11 at 21:30 -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> Nick Piggin <piggin@cyberone.com.au> wrote:
> >
> >  >So let's see.  We take a write fault, we mark the page dirty then we return
> >  >to userspace which will proceed with the write and will mark the pte dirty.
> >  >
> >  >Later, the VM will write the page out.
> >  >
> >  >Later still, the pte will get cleaned by reclaim or by munmap or whatever
> >  >and the page will be marked dirty and the page will again be written out. 
> >  >Potentially needlessly.
> >  >
> > 
> >  page_wrprotect also marks the page clean,
> 
> Oh.  I missed that when reading the comment which describes
> page_wrprotect() (I do go on).

Yes, this name is not the best of names :-(

I was aware of this, but since in my mind the counting through
protection 
faults was the prime idea, I stuck to page_wrprotect().

But I'm hard pressed to come up with a better one. Nick proposes:
 page_mkclean()
But that also doesn't cover the whole of it from my perspective.

> > so this window is very small.
> >  The window is that the fault path might set_page_dirty, then throttle
> >  on writeout, and the page gets written out before it really gets dirtied
> >  by the application (which then has to fault again).
> 
> : int test_clear_page_dirty(struct page *page)
> : {
> : 	struct address_space *mapping = page_mapping(page);
> : 	unsigned long flags;
> : 
> : 	if (mapping) {
> : 		write_lock_irqsave(&mapping->tree_lock, flags);
> : 		if (TestClearPageDirty(page)) {
> : 			radix_tree_tag_clear(&mapping->page_tree,
> : 						page_index(page),
> : 						PAGECACHE_TAG_DIRTY);
> : 			write_unlock_irqrestore(&mapping->tree_lock, flags);
> : 			/*
> : 			 * We can continue to use `mapping' here because the
> : 			 * page is locked, which pins the address_space
> : 			 */
> 
> So if userspace modifies the page right here, and marks the pte dirty.
> 
> : 			if (mapping_cap_account_dirty(mapping)) {
> : 				page_wrprotect(page);
> 
> We just lost that pte dirty bit, and hence the user's data.

I thought that at the time we clean PAGECACHE_TAG_DIRTY the page is in
flight to disk.
Now that I look at it again, perhaps the page_wrprotect() call in
clear_page_dirty_for_io()
should be in test_set_page_writeback().

> : 				dec_page_state(nr_dirty);
> : 			}
> : 			return 1;
> : 		}
> : 		write_unlock_irqrestore(&mapping->tree_lock, flags);
> : 		return 0;
> : 	}
> : 	return TestClearPageDirty(page);
> : }
> : 
> 
> Which is just the sort of subtle and nasty problem I was referring to...
> 
> If that's correct then I guess we need the
> 
>                 if (ptep_clear_flush_dirty(vma, addr, pte) ||
>                                 page_test_and_clear_dirty(page))
>                         ret += set_page_dirty(page);
> 
> treatment in page_wrprotect().

I would make that a BUG_ON(); the only way for a pte of a shared mapping
to become 
dirty is through the fault handler, and that should already call
set_page_dirty() on it.

> Now I suppose it's not really a dataloss race, because in practice the
> kernel is about to write this page to backing store anwyay.  I guess.  I
> cannot immediately think of any clear_page_dirty() callers for whom that
> won't be true.
> 
> Someone please convince me that this has all been thought about and is solid
> as a rock.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-05-12  7:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-05-05 20:35 [RFC][PATCH] tracking dirty pages in shared mappings Peter Zijlstra
2006-05-06 13:18 ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-06 13:34   ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-05-06 13:47     ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-06 15:29       ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-05-07  0:40         ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-07  3:43           ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-08  6:43         ` Christoph Lameter
2006-05-08  7:23           ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-05-08 19:20           ` [RFC][PATCH 1/2] tracking dirty pages in shared mappings -V3 Peter Zijlstra
2006-05-09  5:41             ` Christoph Lameter
2006-05-09  6:06               ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-05-09 20:44               ` [RFC][PATCH 1/3] tracking dirty pages in shared mappings -V4 Peter Zijlstra
2006-05-09 20:52                 ` Peter Chubb
2006-05-09 20:55                   ` Martin Bligh
2006-05-09 22:56                     ` Brian Twichell
2006-05-10  0:24                     ` Linus Torvalds
2006-05-10  0:29                       ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-10  1:24                         ` Linus Torvalds
2006-05-11 15:02                 ` Andrew Morton
2006-05-11 16:39                   ` Andy Whitcroft
2006-05-11 22:52                   ` Christoph Lameter
2006-05-11 23:30                     ` Linus Torvalds
2006-05-11 23:44                       ` Andrew Morton
2006-05-12  0:10                         ` Linus Torvalds
2006-05-12  8:07                         ` Andy Whitcroft
2006-05-12 14:25                           ` Martin J. Bligh
2006-05-14 15:58                         ` Andy Whitcroft
2006-05-12  1:51                   ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-12  4:30                     ` Andrew Morton
2006-05-12  5:05                       ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-12  7:06                       ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2006-05-12  8:04                         ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-12  8:52                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-05-12  8:07                         ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-12  4:51                   ` Christoph Lameter
2006-05-09 20:44               ` [RFC][PATCH 2/3] throttle writers of shared mappings Peter Zijlstra
2006-05-09 22:54                 ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-09 22:55                   ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-10  6:25                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-05-09 20:44               ` [RFC][PATCH 3/3] optimize follow_pages() Peter Zijlstra
2006-05-10  6:30                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-05-08 19:24           ` [RFC][PATCH 2/2] throttle writers of shared mappings Peter Zijlstra

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