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From: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
To: Nick Piggin <piggin@cyberone.com.au>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	clameter@sgi.com, torvalds@osdl.org, ak@suse.de,
	rohitseth@google.com, mbligh@google.com, hugh@veritas.com,
	riel@redhat.com, andrea@suse.de, arjan@infradead.org,
	apw@shadowen.org, mel@csn.ul.ie, marcelo@kvack.org,
	anton@samba.org, paulmck@us.ibm.com, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 1/3] tracking dirty pages in shared mappings -V4
Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 10:52:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1147423961.8951.26.camel@twins> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <44644196.9070402@cyberone.com.au>

On Fri, 2006-05-12 at 18:04 +1000, Nick Piggin wrote:
> Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> 
> >On Thu, 2006-05-11 at 21:30 -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> >
> >>Nick Piggin <piggin@cyberone.com.au> wrote:
> >>
> >>> >So let's see.  We take a write fault, we mark the page dirty then we return
> >>> >to userspace which will proceed with the write and will mark the pte dirty.
> >>> >
> >>> >Later, the VM will write the page out.
> >>> >
> >>> >Later still, the pte will get cleaned by reclaim or by munmap or whatever
> >>> >and the page will be marked dirty and the page will again be written out. 
> >>> >Potentially needlessly.
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>> page_wrprotect also marks the page clean,
> >>>
> >>Oh.  I missed that when reading the comment which describes
> >>page_wrprotect() (I do go on).
> >>
> >
> >Yes, this name is not the best of names :-(
> >
> >I was aware of this, but since in my mind the counting through
> >protection 
> >faults was the prime idea, I stuck to page_wrprotect().
> >
> >But I'm hard pressed to come up with a better one. Nick proposes:
> > page_mkclean()
> >But that also doesn't cover the whole of it from my perspective.
> >
> 
> What's your perspective?
> 
> With mmap shared accounting, the _whole VM's_ perspective is that clean
> MAP_SHARED ptes are marked readonly.
> 
> The logical operation is marking the page's ptes clean. The VM mechanism
> also marks the ptes readonly as a side effect of that. Think about it:
> writeback does not want to make the page write protected, it wants to make
> it clean.

As said, I was looking at the added functionality on its own; that is, 
counting dirty pages by trapping write faults.

However your view; the big picture; does make more sense. I shall
rename.




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  reply	other threads:[~2006-05-12  8:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-05-05 20:35 [RFC][PATCH] tracking dirty pages in shared mappings Peter Zijlstra
2006-05-06 13:18 ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-06 13:34   ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-05-06 13:47     ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-06 15:29       ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-05-07  0:40         ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-07  3:43           ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-08  6:43         ` Christoph Lameter
2006-05-08  7:23           ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-05-08 19:20           ` [RFC][PATCH 1/2] tracking dirty pages in shared mappings -V3 Peter Zijlstra
2006-05-09  5:41             ` Christoph Lameter
2006-05-09  6:06               ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-05-09 20:44               ` [RFC][PATCH 1/3] tracking dirty pages in shared mappings -V4 Peter Zijlstra
2006-05-09 20:52                 ` Peter Chubb
2006-05-09 20:55                   ` Martin Bligh
2006-05-09 22:56                     ` Brian Twichell
2006-05-10  0:24                     ` Linus Torvalds
2006-05-10  0:29                       ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-10  1:24                         ` Linus Torvalds
2006-05-11 15:02                 ` Andrew Morton
2006-05-11 16:39                   ` Andy Whitcroft
2006-05-11 22:52                   ` Christoph Lameter
2006-05-11 23:30                     ` Linus Torvalds
2006-05-11 23:44                       ` Andrew Morton
2006-05-12  0:10                         ` Linus Torvalds
2006-05-12  8:07                         ` Andy Whitcroft
2006-05-12 14:25                           ` Martin J. Bligh
2006-05-14 15:58                         ` Andy Whitcroft
2006-05-12  1:51                   ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-12  4:30                     ` Andrew Morton
2006-05-12  5:05                       ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-12  7:06                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-05-12  8:04                         ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-12  8:52                           ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2006-05-12  8:07                         ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-12  4:51                   ` Christoph Lameter
2006-05-09 20:44               ` [RFC][PATCH 2/3] throttle writers of shared mappings Peter Zijlstra
2006-05-09 22:54                 ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-09 22:55                   ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-10  6:25                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-05-09 20:44               ` [RFC][PATCH 3/3] optimize follow_pages() Peter Zijlstra
2006-05-10  6:30                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-05-08 19:24           ` [RFC][PATCH 2/2] throttle writers of shared mappings Peter Zijlstra

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