From: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
To: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>
Cc: npiggin@suse.de, akpm@linux-foundation.org, mingo@elte.hu,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
benh@kernel.crashing.org, jdike@addtoit.com, hugh@veritas.com,
torvalds@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] mm: fix page_mkclean() vs non-linear vmas
Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 12:37:04 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1173353824.9438.15.camel@twins> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1HPGg9-00039z-00@dorka.pomaz.szeredi.hu>
On Thu, 2007-03-08 at 12:21 +0100, Miklos Szeredi wrote:
> > Partial revert of commit: 204ec841fbea3e5138168edbc3a76d46747cc987
> >
> > Non-linear vmas aren't properly handled by page_mkclean() and fixing that
> > would result in linear scans of all related non-linear vmas per page_mkclean()
> > invocation.
> >
> > This is deemed too costly, hence re-instate the msync scan for non-linear vmas.
> >
> > However this can lead to double IO:
> >
> > - pages get instanciated with RO mapping
> > - page takes write fault, and gets marked with PG_dirty
> > - page gets tagged for writeout and calls page_mkclean()
> > - page_mkclean() fails to find the dirty pte (and clean it)
> > - writeout happens and PG_dirty gets cleared.
> > - user calls msync, the dirty pte is found and the page marked with PG_dirty
> > - the page gets writen out _again_ even though its not re-dirtied.
> >
> > To minimize this reset the protection when creating a nonlinear vma.
> >
> > I'm not at all happy with this, but plain disallowing
> > remap_file_pages on bdis without BDI_CAP_NO_WRITEBACK seems to
> > offend some people, hence restrict it to root only.
>
> Root only for !BDI_CAP_NO_WRITEBACK mappings doesn't make sense
> because:
>
> - just encourages insecure applications
>
> - there are no current users that want this and presumable no future
> uses either
AFAIK no other OS does this against regular filesystems (hear-say)
> - it's a maintenance burden: I'll have to layer the m/ctime update
> patch on top of this
>
> - the only pro for this has been that Nick thinks it cool ;)
>
> I think the proper way to deal with this is to
>
> - allow BDI_CAP_NO_WRITEBACK (tmpfs/ramfs) uses, makes database
> people happy
And UML once the remap_file_pages_prot() stuff is merged.
> - for !BDI_CAP_NO_WRITEBACK emulate using do_mmap_pgoff(), should be
> trivial, no userspace ABI breakage
I can live with that.
However this still leaves the non-linear reclaim (Nick pointed it out as
a potential DoS and other people have corroborated this). I have no idea
on that to do about that.
Oracle seems to mlock these things anyway, but UML surely would not.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-03-08 11:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 99+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-02-21 4:49 [patch 0/6] fault vs truncate/invalidate race fix Nick Piggin
2007-02-21 4:49 ` [patch 1/6] mm: debug check for the fault vs invalidate race Nick Piggin
2007-02-21 4:49 ` [patch 2/6] mm: simplify filemap_nopage Nick Piggin
2007-02-21 4:50 ` [patch 3/6] mm: fix fault vs invalidate race for linear mappings Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 6:36 ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-07 6:57 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 7:08 ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-07 7:25 ` Nick Piggin
2007-02-21 4:50 ` [patch 4/6] mm: merge populate and nopage into fault (fixes nonlinear) Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 6:51 ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-07 7:08 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 8:19 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 8:27 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-07 8:35 ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-07 8:53 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-07 9:28 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 9:44 ` Bill Irwin
2007-03-07 9:49 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 10:02 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-12 23:01 ` Blaisorblade
2007-03-13 1:19 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-17 12:17 ` Blaisorblade
2007-03-18 2:50 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-18 13:09 ` Jeff Dike
2007-03-19 12:04 ` Bill Irwin
2007-03-19 20:44 ` Blaisorblade
2007-03-20 6:00 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-21 19:45 ` Blaisorblade
2007-03-08 12:39 ` Blaisorblade
2007-03-07 9:29 ` Bill Irwin
2007-03-07 9:39 ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-07 10:09 ` Bill Irwin
2007-03-07 8:38 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-07 8:47 ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-07 8:51 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-07 9:07 ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-07 9:18 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 9:26 ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-07 9:28 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-07 9:38 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 9:25 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-07 9:32 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-07 9:45 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 10:04 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 10:06 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-07 10:13 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-07 10:21 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 10:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-07 10:38 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 10:47 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-07 11:00 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 11:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-07 12:17 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 12:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-07 13:08 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 13:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-07 13:36 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 13:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-07 13:56 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-07 14:34 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-07 15:01 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 16:58 ` [RFC][PATCH] mm: fix page_mkclean() vs non-linear vmas Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-07 18:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-07 18:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-07 18:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-08 11:21 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-08 11:37 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2007-03-08 11:48 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-08 12:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-08 12:19 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-08 12:25 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-08 11:58 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-08 12:09 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-07 15:10 ` [patch 4/6] mm: merge populate and nopage into fault (fixes nonlinear) Jeff Dike
2007-03-07 13:53 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-07 14:50 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 12:22 ` Bill Irwin
2007-03-07 12:36 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 10:30 ` [rfc][patch 7/6] mm: merge page_mkwrite Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 8:59 ` [patch 4/6] mm: merge populate and nopage into fault (fixes nonlinear) Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 9:11 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 9:22 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-07 9:32 ` Bill Irwin
2007-03-07 9:35 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-07 9:50 ` Bill Irwin
2007-03-07 9:52 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 7:19 ` Bill Irwin
2007-03-07 10:05 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-03-07 10:17 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 10:46 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-02-21 4:50 ` [patch 5/6] mm: merge nopfn into fault Nick Piggin
2007-02-21 5:13 ` Nick Piggin
2007-02-21 4:50 ` [patch 6/6] mm: remove legacy cruft Nick Piggin
2007-02-27 4:36 ` [patch 0/6] fault vs truncate/invalidate race fix Dave Airlie
2007-02-27 5:32 ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-27 6:26 ` Dave Airlie
2007-02-27 6:54 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-03-18 23:13 ` Dave Airlie
2007-02-27 8:50 ` Nick Piggin
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