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From: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
To: Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>
Cc: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>,
	Daniel Phillips <phillips@phunq.net>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, dkegel@google.com,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/3] Recursive reclaim (on __PF_MEMALLOC)
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 12:52:53 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1189594373.21778.114.camel@twins> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0709050507050.9141@schroedinger.engr.sgi.com>

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On Wed, 2007-09-05 at 05:14 -0700, Christoph Lameter wrote:

> Using the VM to throttle networking is a pretty bad thing because it 
> assumes single critical user of memory. There are other consumers of 
> memory and if you have a load that depends on other things than networking 
> then you should not kill the other things that want memory.

The VM is a _critical_ user of memory. And I dare say it is the _most_
important user. 

Every user of memory relies on the VM, and we only get into trouble if
the VM in turn relies on one of these users. Traditionally that has only
been the block layer, and we special cased that using mempools and
PF_MEMALLOC.

Why do you object to me doing a similar thing for networking?

The problem of circular dependancies on and with the VM is rather
limited to kernel IO subsystems, and we only have a limited amount of
them. 

You talk about something generic, do you mean an approach that is
generic across all these subsystems?

If so, my approach would be it, I can replace mempools as we have them
with the reserve system I introduce.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-09-12 10:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-08-14 14:21 [RFC 0/3] Recursive reclaim (on __PF_MEMALLOC) Christoph Lameter
2007-08-14 14:21 ` [RFC 1/3] Allow reclaim via __GFP_NOMEMALLOC reclaim Christoph Lameter
2007-08-14 14:21 ` [RFC 2/3] Use NOMEMALLOC reclaim to allow reclaim if PF_MEMALLOC is set Christoph Lameter
2007-08-14 14:21 ` [RFC 3/3] Test code for PF_MEMALLOC reclaim Christoph Lameter
2007-08-14 14:36 ` [RFC 0/3] Recursive reclaim (on __PF_MEMALLOC) Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-14 15:29   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-14 19:32     ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-14 19:41       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-15 12:22 ` Nick Piggin
2007-08-15 13:12   ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-15 14:15     ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-15 13:55       ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-15 14:34         ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-15 20:32         ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-15 20:29     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-16  3:29     ` Nick Piggin
2007-08-16 20:27       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-20  3:51       ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-20 19:15         ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-21  0:32           ` Nick Piggin
2007-08-21  0:28         ` Nick Piggin
2007-08-21 15:29           ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-23  3:02             ` Nick Piggin
2007-09-12 22:39           ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-05  9:20 ` Daniel Phillips
2007-09-05 10:42   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-05 11:42     ` Nick Piggin
2007-09-05 12:14       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-05 12:19         ` Nick Piggin
2007-09-10 19:29           ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-10 19:37             ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-10 19:41               ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-10 19:55                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-10 20:17                   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-10 20:48                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-11  7:41             ` Nick Piggin
2007-09-12 10:52         ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2007-09-12 22:47           ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-13  8:19             ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-13 18:32               ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-13 19:24                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-05 16:16     ` Daniel Phillips
2007-09-08  5:12       ` Mike Snitzer
2007-09-18  0:28         ` Daniel Phillips
2007-09-18  3:27           ` Mike Snitzer
2007-09-18  9:30             ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]             ` <200709172211.26493.phillips@phunq.net>
2007-09-18  8:11               ` Wouter Verhelst
2007-09-18  9:58               ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-18 16:56                 ` Daniel Phillips
2007-09-18 19:16                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-18 18:40             ` Daniel Phillips
2007-09-18 20:13               ` Mike Snitzer
2007-09-10 19:25       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-10 19:55         ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-10 20:22           ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-10 20:48             ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-10-26 17:44               ` Pavel Machek
2007-10-26 17:55                 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-10-27 22:58                   ` Daniel Phillips
2007-10-27 23:08                 ` Daniel Phillips

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