From: Lee Schermerhorn <Lee.Schermerhorn@hp.com>
To: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org, mel@csn.ul.ie,
clameter@sgi.com, riel@redhat.com, balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
andrea@suse.de, a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl, eric.whitney@hp.com,
npiggin@suse.de
Subject: Re: [PATCH/RFC 11/14] Reclaim Scalability: swap backed pages are nonreclaimable when no swap space available
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 11:47:21 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1190130442.5035.36.camel@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070918115933.886238b3.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
On Tue, 2007-09-18 at 11:59 +0900, KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 16:55:12 -0400
> Lee Schermerhorn <lee.schermerhorn@hp.com> wrote:
>
> > +#ifdef CONFIG_NORECLAIM_NO_SWAP
> > + if (page_anon(page) && !PageSwapCache(page) && !nr_swap_pages)
> > + return 0;
> > +#endif
>
> nr_swap_pages depends on CONFIG_SWAP.
I didn't think that was the case [see definition in page_alloc.c and
extern declaration in swap.h]. If this is the case, I'll have to change
that.
>
> So I recommend you to use total_swap_pages. (if CONFIG_SWAP=n, total_swap_pages is
> compield to be 0.)
total_swap_pages is not appropriate in this context. total_swap_pages
can be non-zero, but we can have MANY more swap-backed pages than we
have room for. So, we want to declare any such pages as non-reclaimable
once the existing swap space has been exhausted. That's the theory,
anyway.
>
> ==
> if (!total_swap_pages && page_anon(page))
> return 0;
> ==
> By the way, nr_swap_pages is "# of currently available swap pages".
> Should this page will be put into NORECLAIM list ? This number can be
> changed to be > 0 easily.
Right. This means we need to come up with a way to bring pages back
from the noreclaim list when swap becomes available. This is currently
and unsolved problem--the noreclaim series IS a work in progress :-).
Now, Rik vR has a patch that I've kept around in another tree, that
frees swap space when pages are swapped in, if we're under "swap
pressure" [swap space > 1/2 full]. We might want to add this patch
into the mix and, perhaps, keep the various types of non-reclaimable
pages on different lists--e.g., in this case, the unswappable list.
Then, if the list is non-empty when we free a page of swap space, we can
bring back one page from the "unswappable" list. Thus, we'd rotate
pages through the unswappable noreclaim state so as to not penalize
late-comers after swap space has all been allocated.
Again, I have got there yet, and am open to suggestions, patches, ...
Thanks,
Lee
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Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-09-14 20:53 [PATCH/RFC 0/14] Page Reclaim Scalability Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-14 20:54 ` [PATCH/RFC 1/14] Reclaim Scalability: Convert anon_vma lock to read/write lock Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-17 11:02 ` Mel Gorman
2007-09-18 2:41 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-09-18 11:01 ` Mel Gorman
2007-09-18 14:57 ` Rik van Riel
2007-09-18 15:37 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-18 20:17 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-20 10:19 ` Mel Gorman
2007-09-14 20:54 ` [PATCH/RFC 2/14] Reclaim Scalability: convert inode i_mmap_lock to reader/writer lock Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-17 12:53 ` Mel Gorman
2007-09-20 1:24 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-09-20 14:10 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-20 14:16 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-09-14 20:54 ` [PATCH/RFC 3/14] Reclaim Scalability: move isolate_lru_page() to vmscan.c Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-14 21:34 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-15 1:55 ` Rik van Riel
2007-09-17 14:11 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-17 9:20 ` Balbir Singh
2007-09-17 19:19 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-14 20:54 ` [PATCH/RFC 4/14] Reclaim Scalability: Define page_anon() function Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-15 2:00 ` Rik van Riel
2007-09-17 13:19 ` Mel Gorman
2007-09-18 1:58 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-09-18 2:27 ` Rik van Riel
2007-09-18 2:40 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-09-18 15:04 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-18 19:41 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19 0:30 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-09-19 16:58 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-20 0:56 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-09-14 20:54 ` [PATCH/RFC 5/14] Reclaim Scalability: Use an indexed array for LRU variables Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-17 13:40 ` Mel Gorman
2007-09-17 14:17 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-17 14:39 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-17 18:58 ` Balbir Singh
2007-09-17 19:12 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-17 19:36 ` Balbir Singh
2007-09-17 19:36 ` Rik van Riel
2007-09-17 20:21 ` Balbir Singh
2007-09-17 21:01 ` Rik van Riel
2007-09-14 20:54 ` [PATCH/RFC 6/14] Reclaim Scalability: "No Reclaim LRU Infrastructure" Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-14 22:47 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-17 15:17 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-17 18:41 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-18 9:54 ` Mel Gorman
2007-09-18 19:45 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19 11:11 ` Mel Gorman
2007-09-19 18:03 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19 6:00 ` Balbir Singh
2007-09-19 14:47 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-14 20:54 ` [PATCH/RFC 7/14] Reclaim Scalability: Non-reclaimable page statistics Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-17 1:56 ` Rik van Riel
2007-09-14 20:54 ` [PATCH/RFC 8/14] Reclaim Scalability: Ram Disk Pages are non-reclaimable Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-17 1:57 ` Rik van Riel
2007-09-17 14:40 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-17 18:42 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-14 20:54 ` [PATCH/RFC 9/14] Reclaim Scalability: SHM_LOCKED pages are nonreclaimable Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-17 2:18 ` Rik van Riel
2007-09-14 20:55 ` [PATCH/RFC 10/14] Reclaim Scalability: track anon_vma "related vmas" Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-17 2:52 ` Rik van Riel
2007-09-17 15:52 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-14 20:55 ` [PATCH/RFC 11/14] Reclaim Scalability: swap backed pages are nonreclaimable when no swap space available Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-17 2:53 ` Rik van Riel
2007-09-18 17:46 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-18 20:01 ` Rik van Riel
2007-09-19 14:55 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-18 2:59 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-09-18 15:47 ` Lee Schermerhorn [this message]
2007-09-14 20:55 ` [PATCH/RFC 12/14] Reclaim Scalability: Non-reclaimable Mlock'ed pages Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-14 20:55 ` [PATCH/RFC 13/14] Reclaim Scalability: Handle Mlock'ed pages during map/unmap and truncate Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-14 20:55 ` [PATCH/RFC 14/14] Reclaim Scalability: cull non-reclaimable anon pages in fault path Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-14 21:11 ` [PATCH/RFC 0/14] Page Reclaim Scalability Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-14 21:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-09-14 22:02 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-15 0:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-09-17 6:44 ` Balbir Singh
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