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From: Thayne Harbaugh <thayne@c2.net>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, discuss@x86-64.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Inconsistent mmap()/mremap() flags
Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2007 01:06:12 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1191308772.5200.66.camel@phantasm.home.enterpriseandprosperity.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20071002051526.GA29615@one.firstfloor.org>

On Tue, 2007-10-02 at 07:15 +0200, Andi Kleen wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 01, 2007 at 08:57:10PM -0600, Thayne Harbaugh wrote:

> For mmap you can emulate it by passing a low hint != 0 (e.g. getpagesize()) 
> in address but without MAP_FIXED and checking if the result is not beyond
> your range.

Cool.  That's a much better solution for multiple reasons - like you
mention, MAP_32BIT is only 2GB as well as it's only available on x86_64.

> > > Given for mremap() it is not that easy because there is no "hint" argument
> > > without MREMAP_FIXED; but unless someone really needs it i would prefer
> > > to not propagate the hack. If it's really needed it's probably better
> > > to implement a start search hint for mremap()
> > 
> > It came up for user-mode Qemu for the case of emulating 32bit archs on
> > x86_64 using mmap.  At the moment it calls mmap with MAP_32BIT and then
> 
> That would limit the 32bit architectures to 2GB; but their real limit
> is 4GB. Losing half of the address space definitely would make users unhappy
> (e.g. at least normal Linux kernels wouldn't run at all) 

Keeping a kernel happy isn't necessary since it's user-space emulation
rather than full emulation.  It is, however, useful to have 4GB rather
than 2GB.

> Does qemu actually need mremap() ?  It would surprise me because
> a lot of other OS don't implement it.

Qemu has two modes: full hardware emulation and user-mode emulation.
User-mode emulation translates the user-mode code and then remaps the
system calls directly into the native kernel (that way all the kernel
and all the I/O runs natively and faster).  As far as mremap(), I'm
trying to get a 32bit arm mremap() emulated syscall mapped onto a 64bit
x86_64 mremap().

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  reply	other threads:[~2007-10-02  7:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-09-28  5:46 [PATCH] Inconsistent mmap()/mremap() flags Thayne Harbaugh
2007-10-01 11:13 ` Andi Kleen
2007-10-02  2:57   ` Thayne Harbaugh
2007-10-02  5:15     ` Andi Kleen
2007-10-02  7:06       ` Thayne Harbaugh [this message]
2007-10-02 12:19         ` Hugh Dickins
2007-10-02 13:45           ` [discuss] " Andi Kleen
2007-10-02 14:16             ` Hugh Dickins
2007-10-02 15:21               ` Thayne Harbaugh

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