From: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
To: Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no>
Cc: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, wfg@mail.ustc.edu.cn,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] remove throttle_vm_writeout()
Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2007 20:32:19 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1191609139.6210.4.camel@lappy> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1191606600.6715.94.camel@heimdal.trondhjem.org>
On Fri, 2007-10-05 at 13:50 -0400, Trond Myklebust wrote:
> On Fri, 2007-10-05 at 12:57 +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > In this patch I totally ignored unstable, but I'm not sure that's the
> > proper thing to do, I'd need to figure out what happens to an unstable
> > page when passed into pageout() - or if its passed to pageout at all.
> >
> > If unstable pages would be passed to pageout(), and it would properly
> > convert them to writeback and clean them, then there is nothing wrong.
>
> Why would we want to do that? That would be a hell of a lot of work
> (locking pages, setting flags, unlocking pages, ...) for absolutely no
> reason.
>
> Unstable writes are writes which have been sent to the server, but which
> haven't been written to disk on the server. A single RPC command is then
> sent (COMMIT) which basically tells the server to call fsync(). After
> that is successful, we can free up the pages, but we do that with no
> extra manipulation of the pages themselves: no page locks, just removal
> from the NFS private radix tree, and freeing up of the NFS private
> structures.
>
> We only need to touch the pages again in the unlikely case that the
> COMMIT fails because the server has rebooted. In this case we have to
> resend the writes, and so the pages are marked as dirty, so we can go
> through the whole writepages() rigmarole again...
>
> So, no. I don't see sending pages through pageout() as being at all
> helpful.
Well, the thing is, we throttle pageout in throttle_vm_writeout(). As it
stand we can deadlock there because it just waits for the numbers to
drop, and unstable pages don't automagically dissapear. Only
write_inodes() - normally called from balance_dirty_pages() will call
COMMIT.
So my thought was that calling pageout() on an unstable page would do
the COMMIT - we're low on memory, otherwise we would not be paging, so
getting rid of unstable pages seems to make sense to me.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-10-05 18:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-10-04 12:25 [PATCH] remove throttle_vm_writeout() Miklos Szeredi
2007-10-04 12:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-10-04 13:00 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-10-04 13:23 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-10-04 13:49 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-10-04 16:47 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-10-04 17:46 ` Andrew Morton
2007-10-04 18:10 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-10-04 18:54 ` Andrew Morton
[not found] ` <20071005123028.GA10372@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-10-05 12:30 ` Fengguang Wu
2007-10-05 17:20 ` Andrew Morton
[not found] ` <20071006023224.GA7526@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-10-06 2:32 ` Fengguang Wu
2007-10-07 23:54 ` David Chinner
[not found] ` <20071008003349.GA5455@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-10-08 0:33 ` Fengguang Wu
2007-10-04 21:07 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-10-04 21:56 ` Andrew Morton
2007-10-04 22:39 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-10-04 23:09 ` Andrew Morton
2007-10-04 23:26 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-10-04 23:48 ` Andrew Morton
2007-10-05 0:12 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-10-05 0:48 ` Andrew Morton
2007-10-05 8:22 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-10-05 9:22 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-10-05 9:47 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-10-05 10:27 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-10-05 10:32 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-10-05 15:43 ` John Stoffel
2007-10-05 10:57 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-10-05 11:27 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-10-05 17:50 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-10-05 18:32 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2007-10-05 19:20 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-10-05 19:23 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-10-05 21:07 ` Peter Zijlstra
[not found] ` <20071006004028.GA7121@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-10-06 0:40 ` Fengguang Wu
2007-10-05 7:32 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-10-05 19:54 ` Rik van Riel
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