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From: Lee Schermerhorn <Lee.Schermerhorn@hp.com>
To: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Cc: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2.6.24-mm1]  Mempolicy:  silently restrict nodemask to allowed nodes V3
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 17:07:20 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1202861240.4974.25.camel@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.1.00.0802121100211.9649@chino.kir.corp.google.com>

On Tue, 2008-02-12 at 11:06 -0800, David Rientjes wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Feb 2008, Lee Schermerhorn wrote:
> 
> > Firstly, because this was the original API. 
> > 
> > Secondly, I consider this key to extensible API design.  Perhaps,
> > someday, we might want to assign some semantic to certain non-empty
> > nodemasks to MPOL_DEFAULT.  If we're allowing applications to pass
> > arbitrary nodemask now, and just ignoring them, that becomes difficult.
> > Just like dis-allowing unassigned flag values.
> > 
> 
> I allow it with my patchset because there's simply no reason not to.

I'm interpreting this as "because I [David] simply see no reason not
to."   

> 
> MPOL_DEFAULT is the default system-wide policy that does not require a 
> nodemask as a parameter.  Both the man page (set_mempolicy(2)) and the 
> documentation (Documentation/vm/numa_memory_policy.txt) state that.
> 
> It makes no sense in the future to assign a meaning to a nodemask passed 
> along with MPOL_DEFAULT.  None at all.  

Again, you're stating an opinion, to which you're entitled, or
expressing a limitation to your clairvoyance, for which I can't fault
you.  Indeed, I tend to agree with you on this particular point--my own
opinion and/or lack of vision.  However, I've been burned in the past by
just this scenario--wanting to assign meaning to something that was
ignored--because it could break existing applications.  So, on general
principle, I like to be fairly strict with argument checking [despite my
natural libertarian tendencies].

> The policy is simply the 
> equivalent of default_policy and, as the system default, a nodemask 
> parameter to the system default policy is wrong be definition.  
> 
> So, logically, we can either allow all nodemasks to be passed with a 
> MPOL_DEFAULT policy or none at all (it must be NULL).  Empty nodemasks 
> don't have any logical relationship with MPOL_DEFAULT.

Ah, maybe this explains our disconnect.  Internally, a NULL nodemask
pointer specified by the application is equivalent to an empty nodemask
is equivalent to maxnode == 0.  See get_nodes().  By the time
mpol_check_policy() or mpol_new() get called, all they have is a pointer
to the cleared nodemask in the stack frame of sys_set_mempolicy() or
sys_mbind().  So, the existing code's error checking doesn't require one
to specify a non-NULL, but empty nodemask.  It just requires that one
does not specify any nodes with MPOL_DEFAULT.  

Does this help clarify things?

Lee

P.S.,

I've had time to review the patches and have comments queued up.  I'll
send along comments shortly [wherein I do mention my preference for the
error checking].


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  reply	other threads:[~2008-02-13  0:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-02-02  8:12 [2.6.24-rc8-mm1][regression?] numactl --interleave=all doesn't works on memoryless node KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-02-02  9:09 ` Andi Kleen
2008-02-02  9:37   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-02-02 11:30     ` Andi Kleen
2008-02-04 19:03       ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-04 18:20     ` Lee Schermerhorn
2008-02-05  9:26       ` [2.6.24 regression][BUGFIX] " KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-02-08 19:45         ` [PATCH 2.6.24-mm1] Mempolicy: silently restrict nodemask to allowed nodes V3 Lee Schermerhorn
2008-02-09 18:11           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-02-10  5:29           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-02-10  5:49             ` Greg KH
2008-02-10  7:42               ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-10 10:31                 ` Andrew Morton
2008-02-11 16:47                 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2008-02-12  0:43                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-02-12  1:00                     ` David Rientjes
2008-02-12  1:56                       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-02-12  2:05                         ` David Rientjes
2008-02-12  3:05                           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-02-12  3:17                             ` David Rientjes
2008-02-12 15:08                       ` Lee Schermerhorn
2008-02-12 19:06                         ` David Rientjes
2008-02-13  0:07                           ` Lee Schermerhorn [this message]
2008-02-13  0:42                             ` David Rientjes
2008-02-13 16:32                               ` Lee Schermerhorn
2008-02-13 18:32                                 ` David Rientjes
2008-02-13 18:56                                   ` Lee Schermerhorn
2008-02-12  4:30                   ` [PATCH for 2.6.24][regression fix] " KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-02-12  5:06                     ` David Rientjes
2008-02-12  5:07                     ` Andrew Morton
2008-02-12 13:18                       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-02-05 10:17       ` [2.6.24-rc8-mm1][regression?] numactl --interleave=all doesn't works on memoryless node Paul Jackson
2008-02-05 11:14         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-02-05 19:56         ` David Rientjes
2008-02-05 20:51           ` Paul Jackson
2008-02-05 21:03             ` David Rientjes
2008-02-05 21:33               ` Paul Jackson
2008-02-05 22:04                 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2008-02-05 22:44                   ` David Rientjes
2008-02-05 22:50                   ` Paul Jackson
2008-02-05 14:31       ` Mel Gorman
2008-02-05 15:23         ` Lee Schermerhorn
2008-02-05 18:12           ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-05 18:27             ` Lee Schermerhorn
2008-02-05 19:04               ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-05 19:15                 ` Paul Jackson
2008-02-05 20:06                   ` David Rientjes

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