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From: Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Cc: hugh@veritas.com, npiggin@suse.de, riel@redhat.com,
	lee.schermerhorn@hp.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, x86@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] [13/16] POISON: The high level memory error handler in the VM II
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 09:30:29 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1239283829.23150.34.camel@think.oraclecorp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090409075805.GG14687@one.firstfloor.org>

On Thu, 2009-04-09 at 09:58 +0200, Andi Kleen wrote:
> Double checked the try_to_release_page logic. My assumption was that the 
> writeback case could never trigger, because during write back the page
> should be locked and so it's excluded with the earlier lock_page_nosync().
> 
> Is that a correct assumption?

Yes, the page won't become writeback when you're holding the page lock.
But, the FS usually thinks of try_to_releasepage as a polite request.
It might fail internally for a bunch of reasons.

To make things even more fun, the page won't become writeback magically,
but ext3 and reiser maintain lists of buffer heads for data=ordered, and
they do the data=ordered IO on the buffer heads directly.  writepage is
never called and the page lock is never taken, but the buffer heads go
to disk.  I don't think any of the other filesystems do it this way.

At least for Ext3 (and reiser3), try_to_releasepage is required to fail
for some data=ordered corner cases, and the only way it'll end up
passing is if you commit the transaction (which writes the buffer_head)
and try again.  Even invalidatepage will just end up setting
page->mapping to null but leaving the page around for ext3 to finish
processing.

If we really want the page gone, we'll have to tell the FS
drop-this-or-else....sorry, its some ugly stuff.

The good news is, it is pretty rare.  I wouldn't hold up the whole patch
set just for this problem.  We could document the future fun required
and fix the return value check and concentrate on something other than
this ugly corner ;)

-chris


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  reply	other threads:[~2009-04-09 13:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-04-07 15:09 [PATCH] [0/16] POISON: Intro Andi Kleen
2009-04-07 15:09 ` [PATCH] [1/16] POISON: Add support for high priority work items Andi Kleen
2009-04-07 15:09 ` [PATCH] [2/16] POISON: Add page flag for poisoned pages Andi Kleen
2009-04-07 21:07   ` Christoph Lameter
2009-04-08  0:29   ` Russ Anderson
2009-04-08  6:26     ` Andi Kleen
2009-04-08  5:14   ` Andrew Morton
2009-04-08  6:24     ` Andi Kleen
2009-04-08  7:00       ` Andrew Morton
2009-04-08  9:38         ` Andi Kleen
2009-04-07 15:09 ` [PATCH] [3/16] POISON: Handle poisoned pages in page free Andi Kleen
2009-04-07 23:21   ` Minchan Kim
2009-04-08  6:51     ` Andi Kleen
2009-04-08  7:39       ` Minchan Kim
2009-04-08  9:41         ` Andi Kleen
2009-04-08 10:05           ` Minchan Kim
2009-04-07 15:10 ` [PATCH] [4/16] POISON: Export some rmap vma locking to outside world Andi Kleen
2009-04-07 15:10 ` [PATCH] [5/16] POISON: Add support for poison swap entries Andi Kleen
2009-04-07 21:11   ` Christoph Lameter
2009-04-07 21:56     ` Andi Kleen
2009-04-07 21:56       ` Christoph Lameter
2009-04-07 22:25         ` Andi Kleen
2009-04-07 15:10 ` [PATCH] [6/16] POISON: Add new SIGBUS error codes for poison signals Andi Kleen
2009-04-07 15:10 ` [PATCH] [7/16] POISON: Add basic support for poisoned pages in fault handler Andi Kleen
2009-05-26 12:55   ` Hidehiro Kawai
2009-05-26 13:18     ` Andi Kleen
2009-04-07 15:10 ` [PATCH] [8/16] POISON: Add various poison checks in mm/memory.c Andi Kleen
2009-04-07 19:03   ` Johannes Weiner
2009-04-07 19:31     ` Andi Kleen
2009-04-07 20:17       ` Johannes Weiner
2009-04-07 20:24         ` Andi Kleen
2009-04-07 20:36           ` Johannes Weiner
2009-04-07 15:10 ` [PATCH] [9/16] POISON: x86: Add VM_FAULT_POISON handling to x86 page fault handler Andi Kleen
2009-04-07 15:10 ` [PATCH] [10/16] POISON: Use bitmask/action code for try_to_unmap behaviour Andi Kleen
2009-04-07 21:19   ` Christoph Lameter
2009-04-07 21:59     ` Andi Kleen
2009-04-07 22:04       ` Christoph Lameter
2009-04-07 22:35         ` Andi Kleen
2009-04-07 15:10 ` [PATCH] [11/16] POISON: Handle poisoned pages in try_to_unmap Andi Kleen
2009-04-07 15:10 ` [PATCH] [12/16] POISON: Handle poisoned pages in set_page_dirty() Andi Kleen
2009-04-07 15:10 ` [PATCH] [13/16] POISON: The high level memory error handler in the VM Andi Kleen
2009-04-07 16:03   ` Rik van Riel
2009-04-07 16:30     ` Andi Kleen
2009-04-07 18:51   ` Johannes Weiner
2009-04-07 19:40     ` Andi Kleen
2009-04-08 17:03   ` Chris Mason
2009-04-09  7:29     ` Andi Kleen
2009-04-09  7:58       ` [PATCH] [13/16] POISON: The high level memory error handler in the VM II Andi Kleen
2009-04-09 13:30         ` Chris Mason [this message]
2009-04-09 14:02           ` Andi Kleen
2009-04-09 14:37             ` Chris Mason
2009-04-09 14:57               ` Andi Kleen
2009-04-29  8:16               ` Wu Fengguang
2009-04-29  8:21                 ` btrfs BUG on creating huge sparse file Wu Fengguang
2009-04-29 11:40                   ` Chris Mason
2009-04-29 11:45                     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-04-29  8:36                 ` [PATCH] [13/16] POISON: The high level memory error handler in the VM II Andi Kleen
2009-04-29  9:05                   ` Wu Fengguang
2009-04-29 11:27                     ` Chris Mason
2009-04-07 15:10 ` [PATCH] [14/16] x86: MCE: Rename mce_notify_user to mce_notify_irq Andi Kleen
2009-04-07 15:10 ` [PATCH] [15/16] x86: MCE: Support action-optional machine checks Andi Kleen
2009-04-07 15:10 ` [PATCH] [16/16] POISON: Add madvise() based injector for poisoned data Andi Kleen
2009-04-07 19:13 ` [PATCH] [0/16] POISON: Intro Robin Holt
2009-04-07 19:38   ` Andi Kleen
2009-04-08  5:15 ` Andrew Morton
2009-04-08  6:15   ` Andi Kleen
2009-04-08 17:29     ` Roland Dreier
2009-04-09  7:22       ` Andi Kleen
2009-04-08  5:47 ` Andrew Morton
2009-04-08  6:21   ` Andi Kleen
2009-04-13 13:18   ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-26 12:50 ` Hidehiro Kawai
2009-05-26 13:29   ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-28  4:37     ` Hidehiro Kawai
2009-05-28  8:00       ` Andi Kleen

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