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From: Dave Hansen <dave@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Eric B Munson <ebmunson@us.ibm.com>
Cc: kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mel@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	cl@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH V3] Fix Committed_AS underflow
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 12:49:59 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1240256999.32604.330.camel@nimitz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1240244120.32604.278.camel@nimitz>

On Mon, 2009-04-20 at 09:15 -0700, Dave Hansen wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-04-20 at 10:09 +0100, Eric B Munson wrote:
> > 1. Change NR_CPUS to min(64, NR_CPUS)
> >    This will limit the amount of possible skew on kernels compiled for very
> >    large SMP machines.  64 is an arbitrary number selected to limit the worst
> >    of the skew without using more cache lines.  min(64, NR_CPUS) is used
> >    instead of nr_online_cpus() because nr_online_cpus() requires a shared
> >    cache line and a call to hweight to make the calculation.  Its runtime
> >    overhead and keeping this counter accurate showed up in profiles and it's
> >    possible that nr_online_cpus() would also show.

Wow, that empty reply was really informative, wasn't it? :)

My worry with this min(64, NR_CPUS) approach is that you effectively
ensure that you're going to be doing a lot more cacheline bouncing, but
it isn't quite as explicit.

Now, every time there's a mapping (or set of them) created or destroyed
that nets greater than 64 pages, you've got to go get a r/w cacheline to
a possibly highly contended atomic.  With a number this low, you're
almost guaranteed to hit it at fork() and exec().  Could you
double-check that this doesn't hurt any of the fork() AIM tests?

Another thought is that, instead of trying to fix this up in meminfo, we
could do this in a way that is guaranteed to never skew the global
counter negative: we always keep the *percpu* skew negative.  This
should be the same as what's in the kernel now:

void vm_acct_memory(long pages)
{
        long *local;
	long local_min = -ACCT_THRESHOLD;
	long local_max = ACCT_THRESHOLD;
	long local_goal = 0;

        preempt_disable();
        local = &__get_cpu_var(committed_space);
        *local += pages;
        if (*local > local_max || *local < local_min) {
                atomic_long_add(*local - local_goal, &vm_committed_space);
                *local = local_goal;
        }
        preempt_enable();
}

But now consider if we changed the local_* variables a bit:

	long local_min = -(ACCT_THRESHOLD*2);
	long local_max = 0
	long local_goal = -ACCT_THRESHOLD;

We'll get some possibly *large* numbers in meminfo, but it will at least
never underflow.

-- Dave

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  reply	other threads:[~2009-04-20 19:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-04-20  9:09 [PATCH V3] Fix Committed_AS underflow Eric B Munson
2009-04-20  9:18 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-04-20 16:15 ` Dave Hansen
2009-04-20 19:49   ` Dave Hansen [this message]
2009-04-21  1:41     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-04-23 16:31     ` Eric B Munson
2009-04-23 20:38       ` Dave Hansen

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