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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	Pierre Tardy <tardyp@gmail.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@redhat.com>,
	Tom Zanussi <tzanussi@gmail.com>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, arjan@infradead.org,
	ziga.mahkovec@gmail.com, davem <davem@davemloft.net>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org>,
	Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Tracer Ring Buffer splice() vs page cache [was: Re: Perf and ftrace [was Re: PyTimechart]]
Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 20:49:05 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1273862945.1674.14.camel@laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100514183242.GA11795@Krystal>

On Fri, 2010-05-14 at 14:32 -0400, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:

> [CCing memory management specialists]

And jet you forgot Jens who wrote it ;-)

> So I have three questions here:
> 
> 1 - could we enforce removal of these pages from the page cache by calling
>     "page_cache_release()" before giving these pages back to the ring buffer ?
> 
> 2 - or maybe is there a page flag we could specify when we allocate them to
>     ask for these pages to never be put in the page cache ? (but they should be
>     still usable as write buffers)
> 
> 3 - is there something more we need to do to grab a reference on the pages
>     before passing them to splice(), so that when we call page_cache_release()
>     they don't get reclaimed ? 

There is no guarantee it is the pagecache they end up in, it could be a
network packet queue, a pipe, or anything that implements .splice_write.

>From what I understand of splice() is that it assumes it passes
ownership of the page, you're not supposed to touch them again, non of
the above three are feasible.



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  reply	other threads:[~2010-05-14 18:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-14 18:32 [RFC] Tracer Ring Buffer splice() vs page cache [was: Re: Perf and ftrace [was Re: PyTimechart]] Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-05-14 18:49 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2010-05-17 22:42   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-05-18 12:19     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-05-18 15:16       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-05-18 15:23         ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-05-18 15:43           ` Mathieu Desnoyers

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