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From: Dan Rosenberg <drosenberg@vsecurity.com>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: Ted Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>, Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Dave Hansen <dave@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	cl@linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Make /proc/slabinfo 0400
Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2011 09:56:48 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1299509808.2071.1445.camel@dan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110306131955.722d9bd5@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>

On Sun, 2011-03-06 at 13:19 +0000, Alan Cox wrote:
> > If we had wrappers for the most common cases, then any cases that were
> > left that used copy_from_user() explicitly could be flagged and
> > checked by hand, since they would be exception, and not the rule.
> 
> Arjan's copy_from_user validation code already does verification checks
> on the copies using gcc magic.
> 
> Some of the others might be useful - kmalloc_from_user() is a fairly
> obvious interface, a copy_from_user_into() interface where you pass
> the destination object and its actual length as well is mostly covered by
> Arjan's stuff.
> 
> Alan

This is all worthwhile discussion, and a good implementation of these
kinds of features is available as part of grsecurity (PAX_USERCOPY) - it
provides additional bounds-checking for copy operations into both heap
and stack buffers.  Rather than reinventing the wheel, perhaps it would
be a better use of time to extract this patch and make it suitable for
inclusion.

In the meantime, I'd like to get back to the original patch
(make /proc/slabinfo 0400), and the subsequent followup patch (randomize
free objects within a slab).  While it's clear that these patches by
themselves will not entirely prevent kernel heap exploits, they both
seem to be sane improvements, won't significantly impact performance,
and shouldn't be more than a very minor inconvenience to some small
subset of normal users.  In addition, the absence of these changes might
undermine future hardening improvements (e.g. with a more hardened heap,
the readability of /proc/slabinfo may be more necessary for successful
exploitation).

-Dan

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  reply	other threads:[~2011-03-07 14:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-03-03 17:50 [PATCH] Make /proc/slabinfo 0400 Dan Rosenberg
2011-03-03 18:17 ` Dave Hansen
2011-03-03 18:29   ` Dan Rosenberg
2011-03-03 20:58 ` Matt Mackall
2011-03-03 21:16   ` Dan Rosenberg
2011-03-03 21:44     ` Matt Mackall
2011-03-03 22:30       ` Dan Rosenberg
2011-03-03 23:08         ` Matt Mackall
2011-03-04  0:32           ` Dave Hansen
2011-03-04  0:50         ` Theodore Tso
2011-03-04  6:52           ` Pekka Enberg
2011-03-04 17:36             ` Dave Hansen
2011-03-04 17:48               ` Linus Torvalds
2011-03-04 18:14                 ` Matt Mackall
2011-03-04 20:02                   ` Pekka Enberg
2011-03-04 20:31                     ` Matt Mackall
2011-03-04 20:42                       ` Dan Rosenberg
2011-03-04 20:56                         ` Pekka Enberg
2011-03-04 21:08                           ` Dan Rosenberg
2011-03-04 21:30                             ` Pekka Enberg
2011-03-04 21:44                               ` Dan Rosenberg
2011-03-04 22:10                                 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-03-04 22:14                                   ` Pekka Enberg
2011-03-04 23:02                                     ` Matt Mackall
2011-03-05 16:25                                       ` Ted Ts'o
2011-03-06 13:19                                         ` Alan Cox
2011-03-07 14:56                                           ` Dan Rosenberg [this message]
2011-03-07 16:02                                             ` Matt Mackall
2011-03-04 20:37                     ` Dan Rosenberg
2011-03-04 20:58                       ` Pekka Enberg
2011-03-04 21:10                         ` Dan Rosenberg
2011-03-06  0:42                           ` Jesper Juhl
2011-03-06  0:57                             ` Dan Rosenberg
2011-03-06  1:09                             ` Matt Mackall
2011-03-06  1:15                               ` Jesper Juhl
2011-03-07 16:40                                 ` Christoph Lameter
2011-03-04 21:12                         ` Matt Mackall
2011-03-04 11:58           ` Alan Cox
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-03-07 14:19 [PATCH] Make /proc/slabinfo 040 George Spelvin
2011-03-07 17:49 ` [PATCH] Make /proc/slabinfo 0400 George Spelvin

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