From: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@suse.de>
To: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
Cc: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
colin.king@canonical.com, Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>,
linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-ext4 <linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org>,
mgorman@novell.com
Subject: Re: [BUG] fatal hang untarring 90GB file, possibly writeback related.
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 10:02:36 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1304089357.2559.4.camel@mulgrave.site> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110428202701.GB4658@suse.de>
On Thu, 2011-04-28 at 21:27 +0100, Mel Gorman wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 02:59:27PM -0500, James Bottomley wrote:
> > On Thu, 2011-04-28 at 20:21 +0100, Mel Gorman wrote:
> > > On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 01:30:36PM -0500, James Bottomley wrote:
> > > > > Way hey, cgroups are also in the mix. How jolly.
> > > > >
> > > > > Is systemd a common element of the machines hitting this bug by any
> > > > > chance?
> > > >
> > > > Well, yes, the bug report is against FC15, which needs cgroups for
> > > > systemd.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Ok although we do not have direct evidence that it's the problem yet. A
> > > broken shrinker could just mean we are also trying to aggressively
> > > reclaim in cgroups.
> > >
> > > > > The remaining traces seem to be follow-on damage related to the three
> > > > > issues of "shrinkers are bust in some manner" causing "we are not
> > > > > getting over the min watermark" and as a side-show "we are spending lots
> > > > > of time doing something unspecified but unhelpful in cgroups".
> > > >
> > > > Heh, well find a way for me to verify this: I can't turn off cgroups
> > > > because systemd then won't work and the machine won't boot ...
> > > >
> > >
> > > Same testcase, same kernel but a distro that is not using systemd to
> > > verify if cgroups are the problem. Not ideal I know. When I'm back
> > > online Tuesday, I'll try reproducing this on a !Fedora distribution. In
> > > the meantime, the following untested hatchet job might spit out
> > > which shrinker we are getting stuck in. It is also breaking out of
> > > the shrink_slab loop so it'd even be interesting to see if the bug
> > > is mitigated in any way.
> >
> > Actually, talking to Chris, I think I can get the system up using
> > init=/bin/bash without systemd, so I can try the no cgroup config.
> >
> > > diff --git a/mm/vmscan.c b/mm/vmscan.c
> > > index c74a501..ed99104 100644
> >
> > In the mean time, this patch produces:
> >
> > (that's nothing ... apparently the trace doesn't activate when kswapd
> > goes mad).
> >
>
> Or is looping there for shorter than we expect. HZ/10?
Still doesn't print anything, even with HZ/10.
James
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-04-29 15:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-04-27 16:09 [BUG] fatal hang untarring 90GB file, possibly writeback related James Bottomley
2011-04-27 16:33 ` Chris Mason
2011-04-27 16:50 ` James Bottomley
2011-04-27 16:54 ` Chris Mason
2011-04-27 17:21 ` James Bottomley
2011-04-27 17:34 ` Chris Mason
2011-04-27 17:50 ` James Bottomley
2011-04-27 18:25 ` Colin Ian King
2011-04-28 15:57 ` James Bottomley
2011-04-27 20:05 ` James Bottomley
2011-04-28 11:36 ` Colin Ian King
2011-04-28 12:29 ` Chris Mason
2011-04-28 13:42 ` Colin Ian King
2011-04-28 13:45 ` Chris Mason
2011-04-28 14:01 ` Colin Ian King
2011-04-28 14:04 ` Chris Mason
2011-04-28 15:23 ` Colin Ian King
2011-04-28 14:25 ` Jan Kara
2011-04-28 14:33 ` Jan Kara
2011-04-28 14:58 ` Colin Ian King
2011-04-28 22:40 ` Jan Kara
2011-04-28 22:44 ` James Bottomley
2011-05-03 18:55 ` Colin Ian King
2011-04-28 16:11 ` James Bottomley
2011-04-28 14:49 ` James Bottomley
2011-04-28 13:52 ` Jan Kara
2011-04-28 14:07 ` Mel Gorman
2011-04-28 14:25 ` James Bottomley
2011-04-28 15:08 ` Mel Gorman
2011-04-28 16:01 ` James Bottomley
2011-04-28 16:50 ` James Bottomley
2011-04-28 16:56 ` James Bottomley
2011-04-28 17:18 ` Mel Gorman
2011-04-28 18:30 ` James Bottomley
2011-04-28 19:21 ` Mel Gorman
2011-04-28 19:59 ` James Bottomley
2011-04-28 20:27 ` Mel Gorman
2011-04-29 15:02 ` James Bottomley [this message]
2011-04-28 21:12 ` James Bottomley
2011-04-28 22:43 ` James Bottomley
2011-05-03 9:13 ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-03 14:13 ` James Bottomley
2011-05-03 14:22 ` James Bottomley
2011-05-06 7:42 ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-06 8:07 ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-09 18:16 ` James Bottomley
2011-05-10 10:21 ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-10 10:33 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-05-10 14:01 ` James Bottomley
2011-05-10 14:35 ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-10 15:29 ` James Bottomley
2011-05-10 15:57 ` James Bottomley
2011-05-10 17:05 ` James Bottomley
2011-05-10 17:17 ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-10 17:29 ` James Bottomley
2011-05-10 21:08 ` Raghavendra D Prabhu
2011-05-11 9:16 ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-06 11:42 ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-06 15:44 ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-06 19:14 ` James Bottomley
2011-05-06 19:37 ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-10 5:37 ` Colin Ian King
2011-05-06 15:58 ` James Bottomley
2011-05-03 9:54 ` Colin Ian King
2011-04-28 17:10 ` Colin Ian King
2011-04-28 0:37 ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-29 10:23 ` Sedat Dilek
2011-04-29 15:37 ` James Bottomley
2011-04-29 16:31 ` James Bottomley
2011-04-29 18:02 ` James Bottomley
2011-05-02 20:04 ` James Bottomley
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