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From: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@suse.de>
To: Mel Gorman <mgorman@novell.com>
Cc: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	colin.king@canonical.com, Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-ext4 <linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [BUG] fatal hang untarring 90GB file, possibly writeback related.
Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 09:13:02 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1304431982.2576.5.camel@mulgrave.site> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110503091320.GA4542@novell.com>

On Tue, 2011-05-03 at 10:13 +0100, Mel Gorman wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 05:43:48PM -0500, James Bottomley wrote:
> > On Thu, 2011-04-28 at 16:12 -0500, James Bottomley wrote:
> > > On Thu, 2011-04-28 at 14:59 -0500, James Bottomley wrote:
> > > > Actually, talking to Chris, I think I can get the system up using
> > > > init=/bin/bash without systemd, so I can try the no cgroup config.
> > > 
> > > OK, so a non-PREEMPT non-CGROUP kernel has survived three back to back
> > > runs of untar without locking or getting kswapd pegged, so I'm pretty
> > > certain this is cgroups related.  The next steps are to turn cgroups
> > > back on but try disabling the memory and IO controllers.
> > 
> > I tried non-PREEMPT CGROUP but disabled GROUP_MEM_RES_CTLR.
> > 
> > The results are curious:  the tar does complete (I've done three back to
> > back).  However, I did get one soft lockup in kswapd (below).  But the
> > system recovers instead of halting I/O and hanging like it did
> > previously.
> > 
> > The soft lockup is in shrink_slab, so perhaps it's a combination of slab
> > shrinker and cgroup memory controller issues?
> > 
> 
> So, kswapd is still looping in reclaim and spending a lot of time in
> shrink_slab but it must not be the shrinker itself or that debug patch
> would have triggered. It's curious that cgroups are involved with
> systemd considering that one would expect those groups to be fairly
> small. I still don't have a new theory but will get hold of a Fedora 15
> install CD and see can I reproduce it locally.

I've got a ftrace output of kswapd ... it's 500k compressed, so I'll
send under separate cover.

> One last thing, what is the value of /proc/sys/vm/zone_reclaim_mode? Two
> of the reporting machines could be NUMA and if that proc file reads as
> 1, I'd be interested in hearing the results of a test with it set to 0.
> Thanks.

It's zero, I'm afraid

James


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  reply	other threads:[~2011-05-03 14:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-04-27 16:09 [BUG] fatal hang untarring 90GB file, possibly writeback related James Bottomley
2011-04-27 16:33 ` Chris Mason
2011-04-27 16:50   ` James Bottomley
2011-04-27 16:54     ` Chris Mason
2011-04-27 17:21       ` James Bottomley
2011-04-27 17:34         ` Chris Mason
2011-04-27 17:50           ` James Bottomley
2011-04-27 18:25             ` Colin Ian King
2011-04-28 15:57               ` James Bottomley
2011-04-27 20:05             ` James Bottomley
2011-04-28 11:36               ` Colin Ian King
2011-04-28 12:29                 ` Chris Mason
2011-04-28 13:42                   ` Colin Ian King
2011-04-28 13:45                     ` Chris Mason
2011-04-28 14:01                       ` Colin Ian King
2011-04-28 14:04                         ` Chris Mason
2011-04-28 15:23                           ` Colin Ian King
2011-04-28 14:25                         ` Jan Kara
2011-04-28 14:33                           ` Jan Kara
2011-04-28 14:58                             ` Colin Ian King
2011-04-28 22:40                               ` Jan Kara
2011-04-28 22:44                                 ` James Bottomley
2011-05-03 18:55                                 ` Colin Ian King
2011-04-28 16:11                             ` James Bottomley
2011-04-28 14:49                   ` James Bottomley
2011-04-28 13:52                 ` Jan Kara
2011-04-28 14:07                   ` Mel Gorman
2011-04-28 14:25                     ` James Bottomley
2011-04-28 15:08                       ` Mel Gorman
2011-04-28 16:01                         ` James Bottomley
2011-04-28 16:50                           ` James Bottomley
2011-04-28 16:56                             ` James Bottomley
2011-04-28 17:18                               ` Mel Gorman
2011-04-28 18:30                                 ` James Bottomley
2011-04-28 19:21                                   ` Mel Gorman
2011-04-28 19:59                                     ` James Bottomley
2011-04-28 20:27                                       ` Mel Gorman
2011-04-29 15:02                                         ` James Bottomley
2011-04-28 21:12                                       ` James Bottomley
2011-04-28 22:43                                         ` James Bottomley
2011-05-03  9:13                                           ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-03 14:13                                             ` James Bottomley [this message]
2011-05-03 14:22                                               ` James Bottomley
2011-05-06  7:42                                                 ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-06  8:07                                                   ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-09 18:16                                                     ` James Bottomley
2011-05-10 10:21                                                       ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-10 10:33                                                         ` Pekka Enberg
2011-05-10 14:01                                                         ` James Bottomley
2011-05-10 14:35                                                           ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-10 15:29                                                             ` James Bottomley
2011-05-10 15:57                                                               ` James Bottomley
2011-05-10 17:05                                                                 ` James Bottomley
2011-05-10 17:17                                                                   ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-10 17:29                                                                     ` James Bottomley
2011-05-10 21:08                                                               ` Raghavendra D Prabhu
2011-05-11  9:16                                                                 ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-06 11:42                                                   ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-06 15:44                                                   ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-06 19:14                                                     ` James Bottomley
2011-05-06 19:37                                                       ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-10  5:37                                                     ` Colin Ian King
2011-05-06 15:58                                                   ` James Bottomley
2011-05-03  9:54                                 ` Colin Ian King
2011-04-28 17:10                         ` Colin Ian King
2011-04-28  0:37         ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-29 10:23         ` Sedat Dilek
2011-04-29 15:37           ` James Bottomley
2011-04-29 16:31             ` James Bottomley
2011-04-29 18:02               ` James Bottomley
2011-05-02 20:04                 ` James Bottomley

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