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From: Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>
To: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: penberg@kernel.org, sebastian@breakpoint.cc,
	cl@linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	netfilter@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] slob: push the min alignment to long long
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 17:53:40 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1308178420.15617.447.camel@calx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110615.181148.650483947691740732.davem@davemloft.net>

On Wed, 2011-06-15 at 18:11 -0400, David Miller wrote:
> From: Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>
> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 15:55:55 -0500
> 
> > In general, I think the right thing is to require every arch to
> > explicitly document its alignment requirements via defines in the kernel
> > headers so that random hackers don't have to scour the internet for
> > datasheets on obscure architectures they don't care about.
> 
> Blink... because the compiler doesn't provide a portable way to
> do this, right? :-)

Because I, on x86, cannot deduce the alignment requirements of, say,
CRIS without doing significant research. So answering a question like
"are there any architectures where assumption X fails" is obnoxiously
hard, rather than being a grep.

I also don't think it's a given there's a portable way to deduce the
alignment requirements due to the existence of arch-specific quirks. If
an arch wants to kmalloc its weird crypto or SIMD context and those want
128-bit alignment, we're not going to want to embed that knowledge in
the generic code, but instead tweak an arch define.

Also note that not having generic defaults forces each new architectures
to (nominally) examine each assumption rather than discover they
inherited an incorrect default somewhere down the road.

-- 
Mathematics is the supreme nostalgia of our time.


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  reply	other threads:[~2011-06-15 22:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-06-14 20:10 [PATCH] slob: push the min alignment to long long Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2011-06-14 20:40 ` Christoph Lameter
2011-06-14 21:16 ` Christoph Lameter
2011-06-15 20:06   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2011-06-16 16:48   ` Pekka Enberg
2011-06-22 23:41   ` David Rientjes
2011-06-23 14:36     ` Christoph Lameter
2011-06-23 20:24       ` David Rientjes
2011-06-14 22:05 ` Matt Mackall
2011-06-15 20:12   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2011-06-15 20:24     ` Matt Mackall
2011-06-15 20:40       ` Pekka Enberg
2011-06-15 20:55         ` Matt Mackall
2011-06-15 22:11           ` David Miller
2011-06-15 22:53             ` Matt Mackall [this message]
2011-06-16  6:59               ` Pekka Enberg
2011-06-16 15:23                 ` Matt Mackall
2011-06-16 15:28                   ` Pekka Enberg
2011-06-15 22:08     ` David Miller

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