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From: Shaohua Li <shaohua.li@intel.com>
To: Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>
Cc: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>, mel <mel@csn.ul.ie>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [patch v2]vmscan: correctly detect GFP_ATOMIC allocation failure
Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2011 16:17:51 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1318148271.22361.67.camel@sli10-conroe> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20111009080156.GB23003@barrios-desktop>

On Sun, 2011-10-09 at 16:01 +0800, Minchan Kim wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 09, 2011 at 01:53:11PM +0800, Shaohua Li wrote:
> > On Sat, 2011-10-08 at 18:25 +0800, Minchan Kim wrote:
> > > On Sat, Oct 08, 2011 at 01:56:52PM +0800, Shaohua Li wrote:
> > > > On Sat, 2011-10-08 at 11:35 +0800, Shaohua Li wrote:
> > > > > On Sat, 2011-10-08 at 11:19 +0800, David Rientjes wrote:
> > > > > > On Sat, 8 Oct 2011, Shaohua Li wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > has_under_min_watermark_zone is used to detect if there is GFP_ATOMIC allocation
> > > > > > > failure risk. For a high end_zone, if any zone below or equal to it has min
> > > > > > > matermark ok, we have no risk. But current logic is any zone has min watermark
> > > > > > > not ok, then we have risk. This is wrong to me.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Shaohua Li <shaohua.li@intel.com>
> > > > > > > ---
> > > > > > >  mm/vmscan.c |    7 ++++---
> > > > > > >  1 file changed, 4 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Index: linux/mm/vmscan.c
> > > > > > > ===================================================================
> > > > > > > --- linux.orig/mm/vmscan.c	2011-09-27 15:09:29.000000000 +0800
> > > > > > > +++ linux/mm/vmscan.c	2011-09-27 15:14:45.000000000 +0800
> > > > > > > @@ -2463,7 +2463,7 @@ loop_again:
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > >  	for (priority = DEF_PRIORITY; priority >= 0; priority--) {
> > > > > > >  		unsigned long lru_pages = 0;
> > > > > > > -		int has_under_min_watermark_zone = 0;
> > > > > > > +		int has_under_min_watermark_zone = 1;
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > bool
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > >  		/* The swap token gets in the way of swapout... */
> > > > > > >  		if (!priority)
> > > > > > > @@ -2594,9 +2594,10 @@ loop_again:
> > > > > > >  				 * means that we have a GFP_ATOMIC allocation
> > > > > > >  				 * failure risk. Hurry up!
> > > > > > >  				 */
> > > > > > > -				if (!zone_watermark_ok_safe(zone, order,
> > > > > > > +				if (has_under_min_watermark_zone &&
> > > > > > > +					    zone_watermark_ok_safe(zone, order,
> > > > > > >  					    min_wmark_pages(zone), end_zone, 0))
> > > > > > > -					has_under_min_watermark_zone = 1;
> > > > > > > +					has_under_min_watermark_zone = 0;
> > > > > > >  			} else {
> > > > > > >  				/*
> > > > > > >  				 * If a zone reaches its high watermark,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Ignore checking the min watermark for a moment and consider if all zones 
> > > > > > are above the high watermark (a situation where kswapd does not need to 
> > > > > > do aggressive reclaim), then has_under_min_watermark_zone doesn't get 
> > > > > > cleared and never actually stalls on congestion_wait().  Notice this is 
> > > > > > congestion_wait() and not wait_iff_congested(), so the clearing of 
> > > > > > ZONE_CONGESTED doesn't prevent this.
> > > > > if all zones are above the high watermark, we will have i < 0 when
> > > > > detecting the highest imbalanced zone, and the whole loop will end
> > > > > without run into congestion_wait().
> > > > > or I can add a clearing has_under_min_watermark_zone in the else block
> > > > > to be safe.
> > > > Subject: vmscan: correctly detect GFP_ATOMIC allocation failure -v2
> > > > 
> > > > has_under_min_watermark_zone is used to detect if there is GFP_ATOMIC allocation
> > > > failure risk. For a high end_zone, if any zone below or equal to it has min
> > > > matermark ok, we have no risk. But current logic is any zone has min watermark
> > > > not ok, then we have risk. This is wrong to me.
> > > 
> > > I think it's not a right or wrong problem but a policy stuff.
> > > If we are going to start busy reclaiming for atomic allocation
> > > after we see all lower zones' min water mark pages are already consumed
> > > It could make you go through long latency and is likely to fail atomic allocation
> > > stream(Because, there is nothing to do for aotmic allocation fail in direct reclaim
> > > so kswapd should always do best effort for it)
> > > 
> > > I don't mean you are wrong but we are very careful about this
> > > and at least need some experiments with atomic allocaion stream, I think.
> > yes. this is a policy problem. I just don't want the kswapd keep running
> > even there is no immediate risk of atomic allocation fail.
> > One problem here is end_zone could be high, and low zone always doesn't
> > meet min watermark. So kswapd keeps running without a wait and builds
> > big priority.
> 
> It could be but I think it's a mistake of admin if he handles such rare system.
> Couldn't he lower the reserved pages for highmem?
not because admin changes reserved pages. we still have the
zone->lowmem_reserve[] issue for zone_watermark_ok here.

Thanks,
Shaohua

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  reply	other threads:[~2011-10-09  8:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-09-27  7:23 [patch 2/2]vmscan: correctly detect GFP_ATOMIC allocation failure Shaohua Li
2011-09-27 11:28 ` Michal Hocko
2011-09-28  0:48   ` Shaohua Li
2011-09-28  9:27     ` Michal Hocko
2011-10-08  3:14       ` Shaohua Li
2011-10-08  3:19         ` David Rientjes
2011-10-08  3:35           ` Shaohua Li
2011-10-08  5:56             ` [patch v2]vmscan: " Shaohua Li
2011-10-08 10:25               ` Minchan Kim
2011-10-09  5:53                 ` Shaohua Li
2011-10-09  8:01                   ` Minchan Kim
2011-10-09  8:17                     ` Shaohua Li [this message]
2011-10-09 15:10                       ` Minchan Kim
2011-10-10  7:28                         ` Shaohua Li
2011-10-10 15:42                           ` Minchan Kim
2011-10-11  5:30                             ` Shaohua Li
2011-10-11  6:54                               ` Minchan Kim
2011-10-12  2:48                                 ` Shaohua Li
2011-10-12  7:59                                   ` Minchan Kim
2011-10-18  2:13                                     ` [patch v3]vmscan: " Shaohua Li
2011-10-27 22:50                                       ` Minchan Kim
2011-10-28  5:15                                         ` Shaohua Li
2011-11-07  5:15                                           ` Shaohua Li

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