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From: Stephen Smalley <sds@tycho.nsa.gov>
To: Srikar Dronamraju <srikar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Eric Paris <eparis@parisplace.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Masami Hiramatsu <masami.hiramatsu.pt@hitachi.com>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Ananth N Mavinakayanahalli <ananth@in.ibm.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jim Keniston <jkenisto@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Roland McGrath <roland@hack.frob.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 6/X] uprobes: reimplement xol_add_vma() via install_special_mapping()
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 09:34:15 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1318858455.7251.12.camel@moss-pluto> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20111017105054.GC11831@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On Mon, 2011-10-17 at 16:20 +0530, Srikar Dronamraju wrote:
> > I apologize in advance if this was already discussed, but I just can't
> > understand why xol_add_vma() does not use install_special_mapping().
> > Unless I missed something this should work and this has the following
> > advantages:
> 
> 
> The override_creds was based on what Stephen Smalley suggested 
> https://lkml.org/lkml/2011/4/20/224    
> 
> At that time Peter had suggested install_special_mapping(). However the
> consensus was to go with Stephen's suggestion of override_creds.
> 
> > 
> > 	- we can avoid override_creds() hacks, install_special_mapping()
> > 	  fools security_file_mmap() passing prot/flags = 0
> > 
> > 	- no need to play with vma after do_mmap_pgoff()
> > 
> > 	- no need for get_user_pages(FOLL_WRITE/FOLL_FORCE) hack
> > 
> > 	- no need for do_munmap() if get_user_pages() fails
> > 
> > 	- this protects us from mprotect(READ/WRITE)
> > 
> > 	- this protects from MADV_DONTNEED, the page will be correctly
> > 	  re-instantiated from area->page
> > 
> > 	- this makes xol_vma more "cheap", swapper can't see this page
> > 	  and we avoid the meaningless add_to_swap/pageout.
> > 
> > 	  Note that, before this patch, area->page can't be removed
> > 	  from the swap cache anyway (we have the reference). And it
> > 	  must not, uprobes modifies this page directly.
> 
> Stephan, Eric, 
> 
> Would you agree with Oleg's observation that we would be better off
> using install_special_mapping rather than using override_creds.
> 
> To give you some more information about the problem.
> 
> Uprobes will be a in-kernel debugging facility that provides
> singlestepping out of line. To achieve this, it will create a per-mm vma
> which is not mapped to any file. However this vma has to be executable.
> 
> Slots are made in this executable vma, and one slot can be used to
> single step a original instruction.
> 
> This executable vma that we are creating is not for any particular
> binary but would have to be created dynamically as and when an
> application is debugged. For example, if we were to debug malloc call in
> libc, we would end up adding xol vma to all the live processes in the
> system.
> 
> Since selinux wasnt happy to have an anonymous vma attached, we would
> create a pseudo file using shmem_file_setup. However after comments from
> Peter and Stephan's suggestions we started using override_creds. Peter and
> Oleg suggest that we use install_special_mapping. 
> 
> Are you okay with using install_special_mapping instead of
> override_creds()?

That's fine with me.  But I'm still not clear on how you are controlling
the use of this facility from userspace, which is my primary concern.
Who gets to enable/disable this facility, and what check is applied
between the process that enables it and the target process(es) that are
affected by it?  Is it subject to the same checks as ptrace?

-- 
Stephen Smalley
National Security Agency

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  reply	other threads:[~2011-10-17 13:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 160+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-09-20 11:59 [PATCH v5 3.1.0-rc4-tip 0/26] Uprobes patchset with perf probe support Srikar Dronamraju
2011-09-20 11:59 ` [PATCH v5 3.1.0-rc4-tip 1/26] uprobes: Auxillary routines to insert, find, delete uprobes Srikar Dronamraju
2011-09-20 15:42   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-09-26 11:18     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-26 11:59       ` Srikar Dronamraju
2011-09-26 11:18   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-26 12:02     ` Srikar Dronamraju
2011-09-26 13:35   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-26 16:19     ` Srikar Dronamraju
2011-09-20 12:00 ` [PATCH v5 3.1.0-rc4-tip 2/26] Uprobes: Allow multiple consumers for an uprobe Srikar Dronamraju
2011-09-26 12:29   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-20 12:00 ` [PATCH v5 3.1.0-rc4-tip 3/26] Uprobes: register/unregister probes Srikar Dronamraju
2011-09-20 16:50   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-09-21  4:07     ` Srikar Dronamraju
2011-09-26 13:15   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-26 13:23     ` Srikar Dronamraju
2011-10-03 12:46   ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-10-05 17:04     ` Srikar Dronamraju
2011-10-05 18:50       ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-10-06  6:51         ` Srikar Dronamraju
2011-10-07 17:03           ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-09-20 12:00 ` [PATCH v5 3.1.0-rc4-tip 4/26] uprobes: Define hooks for mmap/munmap Srikar Dronamraju
2011-09-20 17:03   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-09-21  4:03     ` Srikar Dronamraju
2011-09-26 13:53   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-26 15:44     ` Srikar Dronamraju
2011-09-27 11:37       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-27 13:08         ` Srikar Dronamraju
2011-09-27 11:41       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-27 12:59         ` Srikar Dronamraju
2011-09-27 11:42       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-10-03 13:37   ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-10-06 11:05     ` Srikar Dronamraju
2011-10-07 17:36       ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-10-10 12:31         ` Srikar Dronamraju
2011-09-20 12:00 ` [PATCH v5 3.1.0-rc4-tip 5/26] Uprobes: copy of the original instruction Srikar Dronamraju
2011-10-03 16:29   ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-10-05 10:52     ` Srikar Dronamraju
2011-10-05 15:11       ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-10-05 16:09     ` Srikar Dronamraju
2011-10-05 17:53       ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-09-20 12:01 ` [PATCH v5 3.1.0-rc4-tip 6/26] Uprobes: define fixups Srikar Dronamraju
2011-09-20 12:01 ` [PATCH v5 3.1.0-rc4-tip 7/26] Uprobes: uprobes arch info Srikar Dronamraju
2011-09-20 12:01 ` [PATCH v5 3.1.0-rc4-tip 8/26] x86: analyze instruction and determine fixups Srikar Dronamraju
2011-09-20 17:13   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-09-20 18:12     ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-09-20 20:53       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-09-23 11:53         ` Masami Hiramatsu
2011-09-23 16:51           ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-09-26 19:59             ` Josh Stone
2011-09-27  1:32               ` Masami Hiramatsu
2011-09-27  2:59                 ` Josh Stone
2011-09-27  7:08               ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-09-22  1:05   ` Josh Stone
2011-10-05 15:48   ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-10-05 16:12     ` Srikar Dronamraju
2011-09-20 12:01 ` [PATCH v5 3.1.0-rc4-tip 9/26] Uprobes: Background page replacement Srikar Dronamraju
2011-10-05 16:19   ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-10-06  6:53     ` Srikar Dronamraju
2011-09-20 12:01 ` [PATCH v5 3.1.0-rc4-tip 10/26] x86: Set instruction pointer Srikar Dronamraju
2011-10-05 16:29   ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-09-20 12:02 ` [PATCH v5 3.1.0-rc4-tip 11/26] x86: Introduce TIF_UPROBE FLAG Srikar Dronamraju
2011-09-20 12:02 ` [PATCH v5 3.1.0-rc4-tip 12/26] Uprobes: Handle breakpoint and Singlestep Srikar Dronamraju
2011-09-26 13:59   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-26 16:01     ` Srikar Dronamraju
2011-09-26 16:25       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-10-05 17:48         ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-09-26 14:02   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-10-07 18:28   ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-10-09 13:31     ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-09-20 12:02 ` [PATCH v5 3.1.0-rc4-tip 13/26] x86: define a x86 specific exception notifier Srikar Dronamraju
2011-09-26 14:19   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-26 15:52     ` Srikar Dronamraju
2011-09-27 11:46       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-10-07 18:31   ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-09-20 12:02 ` [PATCH v5 3.1.0-rc4-tip 14/26] uprobe: register " Srikar Dronamraju
2011-09-20 12:03 ` [PATCH v5 3.1.0-rc4-tip 15/26] x86: Define x86_64 specific uprobe_task_arch_info structure Srikar Dronamraju
2011-09-20 12:03 ` [PATCH v5 3.1.0-rc4-tip 16/26] uprobes: Introduce " Srikar Dronamraju
2011-09-20 12:03 ` [PATCH v5 3.1.0-rc4-tip 17/26] x86: arch specific hooks for pre/post singlestep handling Srikar Dronamraju
2011-09-26 14:23   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-26 16:34     ` Srikar Dronamraju
2011-09-27 11:44       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-20 12:03 ` [PATCH v5 3.1.0-rc4-tip 18/26] uprobes: slot allocation Srikar Dronamraju
2011-09-27 11:49   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-27 12:32     ` Srikar Dronamraju
2011-09-27 12:59       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-27 12:18   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-27 12:45     ` Srikar Dronamraju
2011-09-27 12:36   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-27 12:37   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-27 12:50     ` Srikar Dronamraju
2011-09-27 12:50   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-27 12:55   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-10-07 18:37   ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-10-09 11:47     ` Srikar Dronamraju
2011-09-20 12:03 ` [PATCH v5 3.1.0-rc4-tip 19/26] tracing: Extract out common code for kprobes/uprobes traceevents Srikar Dronamraju
2011-09-28  5:04   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2011-09-20 12:04 ` [PATCH v5 3.1.0-rc4-tip 20/26] tracing: uprobes trace_event interface Srikar Dronamraju
2011-09-20 12:04 ` [PATCH v5 3.1.0-rc4-tip 21/26] tracing: uprobes Documentation Srikar Dronamraju
2011-09-20 12:04 ` [PATCH v5 3.1.0-rc4-tip 22/26] perf: rename target_module to target Srikar Dronamraju
2011-09-20 12:04 ` [PATCH v5 3.1.0-rc4-tip 23/26] perf: perf interface for uprobes Srikar Dronamraju
2011-09-20 12:04 ` [PATCH v5 3.1.0-rc4-tip 24/26] perf: show possible probes in a given executable file or library Srikar Dronamraju
2011-09-20 12:05 ` [PATCH v5 3.1.0-rc4-tip 25/26] perf: Documentation for perf uprobes Srikar Dronamraju
2011-09-28  9:20   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2011-09-20 12:05 ` [PATCH v5 3.1.0-rc4-tip 26/26] uprobes: queue signals while thread is singlestepping Srikar Dronamraju
2011-09-27 13:03   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-27 13:12     ` Srikar Dronamraju
2011-10-05 18:01       ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-10-06  5:47         ` Srikar Dronamraju
2011-10-07 16:58           ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-10-10 12:25             ` Srikar Dronamraju
2011-10-10 18:25               ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-10-11 17:24                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-10-11 17:38                   ` Srikar Dronamraju
2011-10-11 17:26                 ` Srikar Dronamraju
2011-10-11 18:56                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-10-12 12:01                     ` Srikar Dronamraju
2011-10-12 19:34                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-10-12 19:59                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-09-20 13:34 ` [PATCH v5 3.1.0-rc4-tip 0/26] Uprobes patchset with perf probe support Christoph Hellwig
2011-09-20 14:12   ` Srikar Dronamraju
2011-09-20 14:28     ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-09-20 15:19       ` Srikar Dronamraju
2011-10-15 19:00 ` [PATCH 0/X] (Was: Uprobes patchset with perf probe support) Oleg Nesterov
2011-10-15 19:00   ` [PATCH 1/X] uprobes: write_opcode: the new page needs PG_uptodate Oleg Nesterov
2011-10-17 10:59     ` Srikar Dronamraju
2011-10-15 19:00   ` [PATCH 2/X] uprobes: write_opcode() needs put_page(new_page) unconditionally Oleg Nesterov
2011-10-18 16:47     ` Srikar Dronamraju
2011-10-15 19:01   ` [PATCH 3/X] uprobes: xol_add_vma: fix ->uprobes_xol_area initialization Oleg Nesterov
2011-10-15 19:01   ` [PATCH 4/X] uprobes: xol_add_vma: misc cleanups Oleg Nesterov
2011-10-15 19:01   ` [PATCH 5/X] uprobes: xol_alloc_area() needs memory barriers Oleg Nesterov
2011-10-16 16:13   ` [PATCH 6/X] uprobes: reimplement xol_add_vma() via install_special_mapping() Oleg Nesterov
2011-10-17 10:50     ` Srikar Dronamraju
2011-10-17 13:34       ` Stephen Smalley [this message]
2011-10-17 18:55         ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-10-16 16:14   ` [PATCH 7/X] uprobes: xol_add_vma: simply use TASK_SIZE as a hint Oleg Nesterov
2011-10-19 21:51   ` [PATCH 8-14/X] (Was: Uprobes patchset with perf probe support) Oleg Nesterov
2011-10-19 21:52     ` [PATCH 8/X] uprobes: kill sstep_complete() Oleg Nesterov
2011-10-19 21:52     ` [PATCH 9/X] uprobes: introduce UTASK_SSTEP_ACK state Oleg Nesterov
2011-10-19 21:52     ` [PATCH 10/X] uprobes: introduce uprobe_deny_signal() Oleg Nesterov
2011-10-19 21:53     ` [PATCH 11/X] uprobes: x86: introduce xol_was_trapped() Oleg Nesterov
2011-10-24 14:55       ` Srikar Dronamraju
2011-10-24 16:07         ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-10-19 21:53     ` [PATCH 12/X] uprobes: x86: introduce abort_xol() Oleg Nesterov
2011-10-21 14:42       ` Srikar Dronamraju
2011-10-21 16:22         ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-10-21 16:26         ` Ananth N Mavinakayanahalli
2011-10-21 16:42           ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-10-21 17:59             ` test-case (Was: [PATCH 12/X] uprobes: x86: introduce abort_xol()) Oleg Nesterov
2011-10-25 14:06               ` Srikar Dronamraju
2011-10-25 15:49                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-10-22  7:09             ` [PATCH 12/X] uprobes: x86: introduce abort_xol() Ananth N Mavinakayanahalli
2011-10-19 21:53     ` [PATCH 13/X] uprobes: introduce UTASK_SSTEP_TRAPPED logic Oleg Nesterov
2011-10-22  7:20       ` Ananth N Mavinakayanahalli
2011-10-24 14:41         ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-10-24 15:16           ` Ananth N Mavinakayanahalli
2011-10-24 16:13             ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-10-25  6:01               ` Ananth N Mavinakayanahalli
2011-10-25 14:30                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-10-19 21:54     ` [PATCH 14/X] uprobes: uprobe_deny_signal: check __fatal_signal_pending() Oleg Nesterov

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