From: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
Hillf Danton <dhillf@gmail.com>, Dan Smith <danms@us.ibm.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Paul Turner <pjt@google.com>,
Suresh Siddha <suresh.b.siddha@intel.com>,
Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Lai Jiangshan <laijs@cn.fujitsu.com>,
Bharata B Rao <bharata.rao@gmail.com>,
Lee Schermerhorn <Lee.Schermerhorn@hp.com>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 07/39] autonuma: introduce kthread_bind_node()
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 18:19:52 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1332865192.16159.243.camel@twins> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120327160422.GR5906@redhat.com>
On Tue, 2012-03-27 at 18:04 +0200, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 05:45:35PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Tue, 2012-03-27 at 17:22 +0200, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> > > I don't see what's wrong with more than 1 CPU in the hard bind
> > > cpumask.
> >
> > Because its currently broken, but we're trying to restore its pure
> > semantic so that we can use it in more places again, like
> > debug_smp_processor_id(). Testing a single process flag is _much_
> > cheaper than testing ->cpus_allowed.
> >
> > Adding more broken isn't an option.
>
> I would suggest you to use a new bitflag for that _future_
> optimization that you plan to do without altering the way the current
> bitflag works.
>
> I doubt knuma_migrated will ever be the only kernel thread that wants
> to run with a NUMA NODE-wide CPU binding (instead of single-CPU
> binding).
>
> Being able to keep using this bitflag for NUMA-wide bindings too in
> the future as well (after you do the optimization you planned), is
> going to reduce the chances of the root user shooting himself in the
> foot for both the kernel thread node-BIND and the single-cpu-BIND.
But then the current flag is a mis-nomer. Also, there's no correctness
issue with the per-node threads, its perfectly fine if they run some
place else so I don't think we should restrict userspace to force them
away from their preferred node.
So even if you were to introduce a new flag, I'd still object.
The only reason to ever refuse userspace moving a task around is if it
will break stuff. Worst that can happen with a node affine thread is
that it'll incur remote memory penalties, that's not fatal.
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Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-03-26 17:45 [PATCH 00/39] [RFC] AutoNUMA alpha10 Andrea Arcangeli
2012-03-26 17:45 ` [PATCH 01/39] autonuma: make set_pmd_at always available Andrea Arcangeli
2012-03-26 17:45 ` [PATCH 02/39] xen: document Xen is using an unused bit for the pagetables Andrea Arcangeli
2012-03-30 21:40 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-03-26 17:45 ` [PATCH 03/39] autonuma: define _PAGE_NUMA_PTE and _PAGE_NUMA_PMD Andrea Arcangeli
2012-03-26 17:45 ` [PATCH 04/39] autonuma: x86 pte_numa() and pmd_numa() Andrea Arcangeli
2012-03-26 17:45 ` [PATCH 05/39] autonuma: generic " Andrea Arcangeli
2012-03-26 17:45 ` [PATCH 06/39] autonuma: teach gup_fast about pte_numa Andrea Arcangeli
2012-03-26 17:45 ` [PATCH 07/39] autonuma: introduce kthread_bind_node() Andrea Arcangeli
2012-03-26 18:32 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-03-27 15:22 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2012-03-27 15:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-03-27 16:04 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2012-03-27 16:19 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2012-03-26 17:45 ` [PATCH 08/39] autonuma: mm_autonuma and sched_autonuma data structures Andrea Arcangeli
2012-03-26 17:45 ` [PATCH 09/39] autonuma: define the autonuma flags Andrea Arcangeli
2012-03-26 17:45 ` [PATCH 10/39] autonuma: core autonuma.h header Andrea Arcangeli
2012-03-26 17:45 ` [PATCH 11/39] autonuma: CPU follow memory algorithm Andrea Arcangeli
2012-03-26 18:25 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-03-26 19:28 ` Rik van Riel
2012-03-26 19:44 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2012-03-26 19:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-03-26 20:39 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2012-03-27 8:39 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-03-27 14:37 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2012-03-27 16:15 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2012-03-28 11:26 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-03-28 18:39 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2012-03-27 17:09 ` Ingo Molnar
2012-03-26 17:45 ` [PATCH 12/39] autonuma: add page structure fields Andrea Arcangeli
2012-03-26 17:46 ` [PATCH 13/39] autonuma: knuma_migrated per NUMA node queues Andrea Arcangeli
2012-03-26 17:46 ` [PATCH 14/39] autonuma: init knuma_migrated queues Andrea Arcangeli
2012-03-26 17:46 ` [PATCH 15/39] autonuma: autonuma_enter/exit Andrea Arcangeli
2012-03-26 17:46 ` [PATCH 16/39] autonuma: call autonuma_setup_new_exec() Andrea Arcangeli
2012-03-26 17:46 ` [PATCH 17/39] autonuma: alloc/free/init sched_autonuma Andrea Arcangeli
2012-03-26 17:46 ` [PATCH 18/39] autonuma: alloc/free/init mm_autonuma Andrea Arcangeli
2012-03-26 17:46 ` [PATCH 19/39] mm: add unlikely to the mm allocation failure check Andrea Arcangeli
2012-03-26 17:46 ` [PATCH 20/39] autonuma: avoid CFS select_task_rq_fair to return -1 Andrea Arcangeli
2012-03-26 19:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-03-26 20:53 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2012-03-26 17:46 ` [PATCH 21/39] autonuma: fix selecting task runqueue Andrea Arcangeli
2012-03-26 17:46 ` [PATCH 22/39] autonuma: select_task_rq_fair cleanup new_cpu < 0 fix Andrea Arcangeli
2012-03-26 17:46 ` [PATCH 23/39] autonuma: teach CFS about autonuma affinity Andrea Arcangeli
2012-03-26 17:46 ` [PATCH 24/39] autonuma: fix finding idlest cpu Andrea Arcangeli
2012-03-26 17:46 ` [PATCH 25/39] autonuma: fix selecting idle sibling Andrea Arcangeli
2012-03-26 17:46 ` [PATCH 26/39] autonuma: select_idle_sibling cleanup target assignment Andrea Arcangeli
2012-03-26 17:46 ` [PATCH 27/39] autonuma: core Andrea Arcangeli
2012-03-26 17:46 ` [PATCH 28/39] autonuma: follow_page check for pte_numa/pmd_numa Andrea Arcangeli
2012-03-26 17:46 ` [PATCH 29/39] autonuma: default mempolicy follow AutoNUMA Andrea Arcangeli
2012-03-26 17:46 ` [PATCH 30/39] autonuma: call autonuma_split_huge_page() Andrea Arcangeli
2012-03-26 17:46 ` [PATCH 31/39] autonuma: make khugepaged pte_numa aware Andrea Arcangeli
2012-03-26 17:46 ` [PATCH 32/39] autonuma: retain page last_nid information in khugepaged Andrea Arcangeli
2012-03-26 17:46 ` [PATCH 33/39] autonuma: numa hinting page faults entry points Andrea Arcangeli
2012-03-26 17:46 ` [PATCH 34/39] autonuma: reset autonuma page data when pages are freed Andrea Arcangeli
2012-03-26 17:46 ` [PATCH 35/39] autonuma: initialize page structure fields Andrea Arcangeli
2012-03-26 17:46 ` [PATCH 36/39] autonuma: link mm/autonuma.o and kernel/sched/numa.o Andrea Arcangeli
2012-03-26 17:46 ` [PATCH 37/39] autonuma: add CONFIG_AUTONUMA and CONFIG_AUTONUMA_DEFAULT_ENABLED Andrea Arcangeli
2012-03-26 17:46 ` [PATCH 38/39] autonuma: boost khugepaged scanning rate Andrea Arcangeli
2012-03-26 17:46 ` [PATCH 39/39] autonuma: NUMA scheduler SMT awareness Andrea Arcangeli
2012-03-26 18:57 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-03-27 0:00 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2012-03-28 13:51 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2012-04-03 20:35 ` [PATCH 00/39] [RFC] AutoNUMA alpha10 Srivatsa Vaddagiri
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