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From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
Cc: Vaidyanathan Srinivasan <svaidy@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
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	Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
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	Kumar Gala <galak@kernel.crashing.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 33/36] autonuma: powerpc port
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 15:11:00 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1345698660.13399.23.camel@pasglop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120822223542.GG8107@redhat.com>

On Thu, 2012-08-23 at 00:35 +0200, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:

> I'm actually surprised you don't already check for PROTNONE
> there. Anyway yes this is necessary, the whole concept of NUMA hinting
> page faults is to make the pte not present, and to set another bit (be
> it a reserved bit or PROTNONE doesn't change anything in that
> respect). But another bit replacing _PAGE_PRESENT must exist.
> 
> This change is zero cost at runtime, and 0x1 or 0x3 won't change a
> thing for the CPU.

We don't have PROTNONE on ppc, see below.

 .../...

> > I'm concerned. We are already running short on RPN bits. We can't spare
> > more. If you absolutely need a PTE bit, we'll need to explore ways to
> > free some, but just reducing the RPN isn't an option.
> 
> No way to do it without a spare bit.
> 
> Note that this is now true for sched-numa rewrite as well because it
> also introduced the NUMA hinting page faults of AutoNUMA (except what
> it does during the fault is different there, but the mechanism of
> firing them and the need of a spare pte bit is identical).
> 
> But you must have a bit for protnone, don't you? You can implement it
> with prot none, I can add the vma as parameter to some function to
> achieve it if you need. It may be good idea to do anyway even if
> there's no need on x86 at this point.

So we don't do protnone, and now that you mention it, I think that means
that some of our embedded stuff is busted :-)

Basically PROT_NONE turns into _PAGE_PRESENT without _PAGE_USER for us.

On server, user accesses effectively use the user protection bits due to
the fact that the user segments are tagged as such. So the fact that
PROT_NONE -> !_PAGE_USER for us is essentially enough.

However, the embedded ppc situation is more interesting... and it looks
like it is indeed broken, meaning that a user can coerce the kernel into
accessing PROT_NONE on its behalf with copy_from_user & co (though read
only really).

Looks like the SW TLB handlers used on embedded should also check
whether the address is a user or kernel address, and enforce _PAGE_USER
in the former case. They might have done in the past, it's possible that
it's code we lost, but as it is, it's broken.

The case of HW loaded TLB embedded will need a different definition of
PAGE_NONE as well I suspect. Kumar, can you have a look ?

> > Think of what happens if PTE_4K_PFN is set...
> 
> It may very well broken with PTE_4K_PFN is set, I'm not familiar with
> that. If that's the case we'll just add an option to prevent
> AUTONUMA=y to be set if PTE_4K_PFN is set thanks for the info.
> 
> > Also you conveniently avoided all the other pte-*.h variants meaning you
> > broke the build for everything except ppc64 with 64k pages.
> 
> This can only be enabled on PPC64 in KConfig so no problem about
> ppc32.

I wasn't especially thinking of ppc32... there's also hash64-4k or
embedded 64... Also pgtable.h is common, so all those added uses of
_PAGE_NUMA_PTE to static inline functions are going to break the build
unless _PAGE_NUMA_PTE is #defined to 0 when not used (we do that for a
bunch of bits in pte-common.h already).

> > > diff --git a/mm/autonuma.c b/mm/autonuma.c
> > > index ada6c57..a4da3f3 100644
> > > --- a/mm/autonuma.c
> > > +++ b/mm/autonuma.c
> > > @@ -25,7 +25,7 @@ unsigned long autonuma_flags __read_mostly =
> > >  #ifdef CONFIG_AUTONUMA_DEFAULT_ENABLED
> > >  	|(1<<AUTONUMA_ENABLED_FLAG)
> > >  #endif
> > > -	|(1<<AUTONUMA_SCAN_PMD_FLAG);
> > > +	|(0<<AUTONUMA_SCAN_PMD_FLAG);
> > 
> > That changes the default accross all architectures, is that ok vs.
> > Andrea ?
> 
> :) Indeed! But the next patch (34) undoes this hack. I just merged the
> patch with "git am" and then introduced a proper way for the arch to
> specify if the PMD scan is supported or not in an incremental
> patch. Adding ppc64 support, and making the PMD scan mode arch
> conditional are two separate things so I thought it was cleaner
> keeping those in two separate patches but I can fold them if you
> prefer.

Ok.

Cheers,
Ben.


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  reply	other threads:[~2012-08-23  5:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-08-22 14:58 [PATCH 00/36] AutoNUMA24 Andrea Arcangeli
2012-08-22 14:58 ` [PATCH 01/36] autonuma: make set_pmd_at always available Andrea Arcangeli
2012-08-22 14:58 ` [PATCH 02/36] autonuma: export is_vma_temporary_stack() even if CONFIG_TRANSPARENT_HUGEPAGE=n Andrea Arcangeli
2012-08-22 14:58 ` [PATCH 03/36] autonuma: define _PAGE_NUMA_PTE and _PAGE_NUMA_PMD Andrea Arcangeli
2012-08-22 14:58 ` [PATCH 04/36] autonuma: pte_numa() and pmd_numa() Andrea Arcangeli
2012-08-22 14:58 ` [PATCH 05/36] autonuma: teach gup_fast about pmd_numa Andrea Arcangeli
2012-08-22 14:58 ` [PATCH 06/36] autonuma: introduce kthread_bind_node() Andrea Arcangeli
2012-08-22 14:58 ` [PATCH 07/36] autonuma: mm_autonuma and task_autonuma data structures Andrea Arcangeli
2012-08-22 14:58 ` [PATCH 08/36] autonuma: define the autonuma flags Andrea Arcangeli
2012-08-22 14:58 ` [PATCH 09/36] autonuma: core autonuma.h header Andrea Arcangeli
2012-08-22 14:58 ` [PATCH 10/36] autonuma: CPU follows memory algorithm Andrea Arcangeli
2012-08-22 14:58 ` [PATCH 11/36] autonuma: add page structure fields Andrea Arcangeli
2012-08-22 14:58 ` [PATCH 12/36] autonuma: knuma_migrated per NUMA node queues Andrea Arcangeli
2012-08-22 14:58 ` [PATCH 13/36] autonuma: autonuma_enter/exit Andrea Arcangeli
2012-08-22 14:58 ` [PATCH 14/36] autonuma: call autonuma_setup_new_exec() Andrea Arcangeli
2012-08-22 14:58 ` [PATCH 15/36] autonuma: alloc/free/init task_autonuma Andrea Arcangeli
2012-08-22 14:59 ` [PATCH 16/36] autonuma: alloc/free/init mm_autonuma Andrea Arcangeli
2012-08-22 14:59 ` [PATCH 17/36] autonuma: prevent select_task_rq_fair to return -1 Andrea Arcangeli
2012-08-22 14:59 ` [PATCH 18/36] autonuma: teach CFS about autonuma affinity Andrea Arcangeli
2012-08-22 14:59 ` [PATCH 19/36] autonuma: memory follows CPU algorithm and task/mm_autonuma stats collection Andrea Arcangeli
2012-08-22 20:19   ` Andi Kleen
2012-08-22 21:22     ` Hugh Dickins
2012-08-22 21:24     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2012-08-22 22:37       ` Andi Kleen
2012-08-22 22:46         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2012-08-22 14:59 ` [PATCH 20/36] autonuma: default mempolicy follow AutoNUMA Andrea Arcangeli
2012-08-22 14:59 ` [PATCH 21/36] autonuma: call autonuma_split_huge_page() Andrea Arcangeli
2012-08-22 14:59 ` [PATCH 22/36] autonuma: make khugepaged pte_numa aware Andrea Arcangeli
2012-08-22 14:59 ` [PATCH 23/36] autonuma: retain page last_nid information in khugepaged Andrea Arcangeli
2012-08-22 14:59 ` [PATCH 24/36] autonuma: numa hinting page faults entry points Andrea Arcangeli
2012-08-22 14:59 ` [PATCH 25/36] autonuma: reset autonuma page data when pages are freed Andrea Arcangeli
2012-08-22 14:59 ` [PATCH 26/36] autonuma: link mm/autonuma.o and kernel/sched/numa.o Andrea Arcangeli
2012-08-22 14:59 ` [PATCH 27/36] autonuma: add CONFIG_AUTONUMA and CONFIG_AUTONUMA_DEFAULT_ENABLED Andrea Arcangeli
2012-08-22 14:59 ` [PATCH 28/36] autonuma: page_autonuma Andrea Arcangeli
2012-08-22 14:59 ` [PATCH 29/36] autonuma: autonuma_migrate_head[0] dynamic size Andrea Arcangeli
2012-08-22 14:59 ` [PATCH 30/36] autonuma: bugcheck page_autonuma fields on newly allocated pages Andrea Arcangeli
2012-08-22 14:59 ` [PATCH 31/36] autonuma: shrink the per-page page_autonuma struct size Andrea Arcangeli
2012-08-22 14:59 ` [PATCH 32/36] autonuma: boost khugepaged scanning rate Andrea Arcangeli
2012-08-22 14:59 ` [PATCH 33/36] autonuma: powerpc port Andrea Arcangeli
2012-08-22 22:01   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-08-22 22:35     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2012-08-23  5:11       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
2012-08-23 15:23         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2012-08-23 22:13         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-08-22 22:56     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-08-22 23:06       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2012-08-23  4:15       ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2012-08-22 14:59 ` [PATCH 34/36] autonuma: make the AUTONUMA_SCAN_PMD_FLAG conditional to CONFIG_HAVE_ARCH_AUTONUMA_SCAN_PMD Andrea Arcangeli
2012-08-22 14:59 ` [PATCH 35/36] autonuma: add knuma_migrated/allow_first_fault in sysfs Andrea Arcangeli
2012-08-22 14:59 ` [PATCH 36/36] autonuma: add mm_autonuma working set estimation Andrea Arcangeli
2012-08-22 19:26 ` [PATCH 00/36] AutoNUMA24 Rik van Riel
2012-08-22 21:40   ` Ingo Molnar
2012-08-22 22:19     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2012-08-23  8:42       ` Ingo Molnar

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