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From: Simon Jeons <simon.jeons@gmail.com>
To: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Petr Holasek <pholasek@redhat.com>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Izik Eidus <izik.eidus@ravellosystems.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 6/11] ksm: remove old stable nodes more thoroughly
Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 19:42:01 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1359337321.6763.18.camel@kernel> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LNX.2.00.1301271451130.17495@eggly.anvils>

On Sun, 2013-01-27 at 15:05 -0800, Hugh Dickins wrote:
> On Sat, 26 Jan 2013, Simon Jeons wrote:
> > On Fri, 2013-01-25 at 18:01 -0800, Hugh Dickins wrote:
> > > Switching merge_across_nodes after running KSM is liable to oops on stale
> > > nodes still left over from the previous stable tree.  It's not something
> > > that people will often want to do, but it would be lame to demand a reboot
> > > when they're trying to determine which merge_across_nodes setting is best.
> > > 
> > > How can this happen?  We only permit switching merge_across_nodes when
> > > pages_shared is 0, and usually set run 2 to force that beforehand, which
> > > ought to unmerge everything: yet oopses still occur when you then run 1.
> > > 
> > > Three causes:
> > > 
> > > 1. The old stable tree (built according to the inverse merge_across_nodes)
                                                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
How to understand inverse merge_across_nodes here?

> > > has not been fully torn down.  A stable node lingers until get_ksm_page()
> > > notices that the page it references no longer references it: but the page

Do you mean page->mapping is NULL when call get_ksm_page()? Who clear it
NULL?

> > > is not necessarily freed as soon as expected, particularly when swapcache.

Why is not necessarily freed as soon as expected?

> > > 
> > 
> > When can this happen?  
> 
> Whenever there's an additional reference to the page, beyond those for
> its ptes in userspace - swapcache for example, or pinned by get_user_pages.
> That delays its being freed (arriving at the "page->mapping = NULL;"
> in free_pages_prepare()).  Or it might simply be sitting in a pagevec,
> waiting for that to be filled up, to be freed as part of a batch.
> 
> > 
> > > Fix this with a pass through the old stable tree, applying get_ksm_page()
> > > to each of the remaining nodes (most found stale and removed immediately),
> > > with forced removal of any left over.  Unless the page is still mapped:
> > > I've not seen that case, it shouldn't occur, but better to WARN_ON_ONCE
> > > and EBUSY than BUG.
> > > 
> > > 2. __ksm_enter() has a nice little optimization, to insert the new mm
> > > just behind ksmd's cursor, so there's a full pass for it to stabilize
> > > (or be removed) before ksmd addresses it.  Nice when ksmd is running,
> > > but not so nice when we're trying to unmerge all mms: we were missing
> > > those mms forked and inserted behind the unmerge cursor.  Easily fixed
> > > by inserting at the end when KSM_RUN_UNMERGE.
> > 
> > mms forked will be unmerged just after ksmd's cursor since they're
> > inserted behind it, why will be missing?
> 
> unmerge_and_remove_all_rmap_items() makes one pass through the list
> from start to finish: insert behind the cursor and it will be missed.

Since mms forked will be insert just after ksmd's cursor, so it is the
next which will be scan and unmerge, where I miss?



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  reply	other threads:[~2013-01-28  1:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-01-26  1:53 [PATCH 0/11] ksm: NUMA trees and page migration Hugh Dickins
2013-01-26  1:54 ` [PATCH 1/11] ksm: allow trees per NUMA node Hugh Dickins
2013-01-27  1:14   ` Simon Jeons
2013-01-27  2:54     ` Hugh Dickins
2013-01-27  3:16       ` Simon Jeons
2013-01-27 21:55         ` Hugh Dickins
2013-01-28 23:03   ` Andrew Morton
2013-01-29  1:17     ` Hugh Dickins
2013-01-28 23:08   ` Andrew Morton
2013-01-29  1:38     ` Hugh Dickins
2013-02-05 16:41   ` Mel Gorman
2013-02-07 23:57     ` Hugh Dickins
2013-01-26  1:56 ` [PATCH 2/11] ksm: add sysfs ABI Documentation Hugh Dickins
2013-01-26  1:58 ` [PATCH 3/11] ksm: trivial tidyups Hugh Dickins
2013-01-28 23:11   ` Andrew Morton
2013-01-29  1:44     ` Hugh Dickins
2013-01-26  1:59 ` [PATCH 4/11] ksm: reorganize ksm_check_stable_tree Hugh Dickins
2013-02-05 16:48   ` Mel Gorman
2013-02-08  0:07     ` Hugh Dickins
2013-02-14 11:30       ` Mel Gorman
2013-01-26  2:00 ` [PATCH 5/11] ksm: get_ksm_page locked Hugh Dickins
2013-01-27  2:36   ` Simon Jeons
2013-01-27 22:08     ` Hugh Dickins
2013-01-28  0:36       ` Simon Jeons
2013-01-28  3:35         ` Hugh Dickins
2013-01-27  2:48   ` Simon Jeons
2013-01-27 22:10     ` Hugh Dickins
2013-02-05 17:18   ` Mel Gorman
2013-02-08  0:33     ` Hugh Dickins
2013-02-14 11:34       ` Mel Gorman
2013-01-26  2:01 ` [PATCH 6/11] ksm: remove old stable nodes more thoroughly Hugh Dickins
2013-01-27  4:55   ` Simon Jeons
2013-01-27 23:05     ` Hugh Dickins
2013-01-28  1:42       ` Simon Jeons [this message]
2013-01-28  4:14         ` Hugh Dickins
2013-01-28  2:12   ` Simon Jeons
2013-01-28  4:19     ` Hugh Dickins
2013-01-28  6:36   ` Simon Jeons
2013-01-28 23:44   ` Andrew Morton
2013-01-29  2:03     ` Hugh Dickins
2013-02-05 17:55   ` Mel Gorman
2013-02-08 19:33     ` Hugh Dickins
2013-02-14 11:58       ` Mel Gorman
2013-02-14 22:19         ` Hugh Dickins
2013-01-26  2:03 ` [PATCH 7/11] ksm: make KSM page migration possible Hugh Dickins
2013-01-27  5:47   ` Simon Jeons
2013-01-27 23:12     ` Hugh Dickins
2013-01-28  0:41       ` Simon Jeons
2013-01-28  3:44         ` Hugh Dickins
2013-02-05 19:11   ` Mel Gorman
2013-02-08 20:52     ` Hugh Dickins
2013-01-26  2:05 ` [PATCH 8/11] ksm: make !merge_across_nodes migration safe Hugh Dickins
2013-01-27  8:49   ` Simon Jeons
2013-01-27 23:25     ` Hugh Dickins
2013-01-28  3:44   ` Simon Jeons
2013-01-26  2:06 ` [PATCH 9/11] ksm: enable KSM page migration Hugh Dickins
2013-01-26  2:07 ` [PATCH 10/11] mm: remove offlining arg to migrate_pages Hugh Dickins
2013-01-26  2:10 ` [PATCH 11/11] ksm: stop hotremove lockdep warning Hugh Dickins
2013-01-27  6:23   ` Simon Jeons
2013-01-27 23:35     ` Hugh Dickins
2013-02-08 18:45   ` Gerald Schaefer
2013-02-11 22:13     ` Hugh Dickins
2013-01-28 23:54 ` [PATCH 0/11] ksm: NUMA trees and page migration Andrew Morton
2013-01-29  0:49   ` Izik Eidus
2013-01-29  2:26     ` Izik Eidus
2013-01-29 16:51       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2013-01-31  0:05         ` Ric Mason
2013-01-29  1:07   ` Hugh Dickins
2013-01-29 10:45     ` Gleb Natapov

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