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From: Simon Jeons <simon.jeons@gmail.com>
To: Dan Magenheimer <dan.magenheimer@oracle.com>
Cc: lsf-pc@lists.linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Seth Jennings <sjenning@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Nitin Gupta <ngupta@vflare.org>,
	Konrad Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [LSF/MM TOPIC] In-kernel compression in the MM subsystem
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 02:08:30 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1360742910.1473.10.camel@kernel.cn.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <73fe6782-21f4-47c5-886f-367374a3e600@default>

On Wed, 2013-02-06 at 10:40 -0800, Dan Magenheimer wrote:
> > From: Simon Jeons [mailto:simon.jeons@gmail.com]
> > Subject: Re: [LSF/MM TOPIC] In-kernel compression in the MM subsystem
> > 
> > Hi Dan,
> > On Sat, 2013-01-26 at 12:16 -0800, Dan Magenheimer wrote:
> > > There's lots of interesting things going on in kernel memory
> > > management, but one only(?) increases the effective amount
> > > of data that can be stored in a fixed amount of RAM: in-kernel
> > > compression.
> > >
> > > Since ramzswap/compcache (now zram) was first proposed in 2009
> > > as an in-memory compressed swap device, there have been a number
> > > of in-kernel compression solutions proposed, including
> > > zcache, kztmem, and now zswap.  Each shows promise to improve
> > > performance by using compression under memory pressure to
> > > reduce I/O due to swapping and/or paging.  Each is still
> > > in staging (though zram may be promoted by LSFMM 2013)
> > > because each also brings a number of perplexing challenges.
> > >
> > > I think it's time to start converging on which one or more
> > > of these solutions, if any, should be properly promoted and
> > > more fully integrated into the kernel memory management
> > > subsystem.  Before this can occur, it's important to build a
> > > broader understanding and, hopefully, also a broader consensus
> > > among the MM community on a number of key challenges and questions
> > > in order to guide and drive further development and merging.
> > >
> > > I would like to collect a list of issues/questions, and
> > > start a discussion at LSF/MM by presenting this list, select
> > > the most important, then lead a discussion on how ever many
> > > there is time for.  Most likely this is an MM-only discussion
> > > though a subset might be suitable for a cross-talk presentataion.
> > >
> > 
> > Is there benchmark to test each component in tmem?
> 
> Hi Simon --
> 
> I'm not sure what you mean.  Could you add a few words
> to clarify?
> 

Hi Dan,

Some questions about zsmalloc:

1) What's the meaning of comment above USE_PGTABLE_MAPPING macro "This
cause zsmalloc to use page table mapping rather than copying for object
mapping"? 
2) How zsmalloc handle object span two pages? It seems that in function
init_zspage, link->next = obj_location_to_handle(next_page, 0); you
encode next_page and 0 to object, then how can zs_malloc find this free
object? IIUC, this encode skip the object span two pages.
3) Why must map after malloc if want to use a object? 
4) What's the number of ZS_MAX_ALLOC_SIZE and ZS_MIN_ALLOC_SIZE? There
are too many macros to figure it out.

Thanks,
Simon


> Thanks,
> Dan


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  reply	other threads:[~2013-02-13  8:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-01-26 20:16 [LSF/MM TOPIC] In-kernel compression in the MM subsystem Dan Magenheimer
2013-02-01  1:46 ` Simon Jeons
2013-02-06  2:18 ` Simon Jeons
2013-02-06 18:40   ` Dan Magenheimer
2013-02-13  8:08     ` Simon Jeons [this message]
2013-02-13 16:47       ` Dan Magenheimer

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