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From: Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>
To: Davidlohr Bueso <davidlohr.bueso@hp.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>, "Shi, Alex" <alex.shi@intel.com>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Michel Lespinasse <walken@google.com>,
	"Wilcox, Matthew R" <matthew.r.wilcox@intel.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: Performance regression from switching lock to rw-sem for anon-vma tree
Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2013 15:44:28 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1371249868.27102.607.camel@schen9-DESK> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1371249104.1758.20.camel@buesod1.americas.hpqcorp.net>


> 
> Unfortunately this patch didn't make any difference, in fact it hurt
> several of the workloads even more. I also tried disabling preemption
> when spinning on owner to actually resemble spinlocks, which was my
> original plan, yet not much difference. 
> 

That's also similar to the performance I got.  There are things about
optimistic spinning that I missed that results in the better mutex
performance.  So I'm scratching my head.

> A few ideas that come to mind are avoiding taking the ->wait_lock and
> avoid dealing with waiters when doing the optimistic spinning (just like
> mutexes do).
> 

For my patch, we actually spin without the wait_lock.

> I agree that we should first deal with the optimistic spinning before
> adding the MCS complexity.
> 
> > Matthew and I have also discussed possibly introducing some 
> > limited spinning for writer when semaphore is held by read.  
> > His idea was to have readers as well as writers set ->owner.  
> > Writers, as now, unconditionally clear owner.  Readers clear 
> > owner if sem->owner == current.  Writers spin on ->owner if ->owner 
> > is non-NULL and still active. That gives us a reasonable chance 
> > to spin since we'll be spinning on
> > the most recent acquirer of the lock.
> 
> I also tried implementing this concept on top of your patch, didn't make
> much of a difference with or without it. 
> 

It also didn't make a difference for me.

Tim

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  reply	other threads:[~2013-06-14 22:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found] ` <1371167015.1754.14.camel@buesod1.americas.hpqcorp.net>
2013-06-14 16:09   ` Performance regression from switching lock to rw-sem for anon-vma tree Tim Chen
2013-06-14 22:31     ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-06-14 22:44       ` Tim Chen [this message]
2013-06-14 22:47       ` Michel Lespinasse
2013-06-17 22:27         ` Tim Chen
2013-06-16  9:50   ` Alex Shi
2013-06-17 16:22     ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-06-17 18:45       ` Tim Chen
2013-06-17 19:05         ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-06-17 22:28           ` Tim Chen
2013-06-17 23:18         ` Alex Shi
2013-06-17 23:20       ` Alex Shi
2013-06-17 23:35         ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-06-18  0:08           ` Tim Chen
2013-06-19 23:11             ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-06-19 23:24               ` Tim Chen
2013-06-13 23:26 Tim Chen
2013-06-19 13:16 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-06-19 16:53   ` Tim Chen
2013-06-26  0:19     ` Tim Chen
2013-06-26  9:51       ` Ingo Molnar
2013-06-26 21:36         ` Tim Chen
2013-06-27  0:25           ` Tim Chen
2013-06-27  8:36             ` Ingo Molnar
2013-06-27 20:53               ` Tim Chen
2013-06-27 23:31                 ` Tim Chen
2013-06-28  9:38                   ` Ingo Molnar
2013-06-28 21:04                     ` Tim Chen
2013-06-29  7:12                       ` Ingo Molnar
2013-07-01 20:28                         ` Tim Chen
2013-07-02  6:45                           ` Ingo Molnar
2013-07-16 17:53                             ` Tim Chen
2013-07-23  9:45                               ` Ingo Molnar
2013-07-23  9:51                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-07-23  9:53                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2013-07-30  0:13                                     ` Tim Chen
2013-07-30 19:24                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2013-08-05 22:08                                         ` Tim Chen
2013-07-30 19:59                                       ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-07-30 20:34                                         ` Tim Chen
2013-07-30 21:45                                           ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-08-06 23:55                                       ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-08-07  0:56                                         ` Tim Chen
2013-08-12 18:52                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2013-08-12 20:10                                             ` Tim Chen
2013-06-28  9:20                 ` Ingo Molnar

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