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From: Lukas Senger <lukas@fridolin.com>
To: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: implement POSIX_FADV_NOREUSE
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2014 13:40:53 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1394714453.542.38.camel@dinghy> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <532085E3.5030904@linux.intel.com>


> But, why wouldn't this work there?  Define a percpu variable, and assign
> it to the target page in readahead's read_pages() and in
> do_generic_file_read() which deal with pages one at a time and not in lists.
> 
> struct page *read_me_once;
> void hint_page_read_once(struct page *page)
> {
> 	read_me_once = page;
> }
> 
> Then check for (read_me_once == page) in add_page_to_lru_list() instead
> of the page flag.  Then, make read_me_once per-cpu.  This won't be
> preempt safe, but we're talking about readahead and hints here, so we
> can probably just bail in the cases where we race.

Thanks for clarifying that. The problem now is that by the time we get
to add_page_to_lru_list we're dealing with multiple pages again, because
of the buffering in pagevecs. We could do the (read_me_once == page)
check in __lru_cache_add and then add it to a (new) lru_add_tail_pvec
that adds its pages to the tail of the lru_lists.

If this way isn't feasible, we'll take a look at Andrew and Michal's
DONTNEED lite idea. However, with a DONTNEED lite implemented in the
posix_fadvise, the syscall would be more cumbersome to use for
application programmers. They would need to call it after every read.
The tail-pvec approach only needs a single syscall after open, as do
NORMAL, SEQUENTIAL and RANDOM. Furthermore we suspect that implementing
it in a way that respects other processes (unlike DONTNEED) won't be
much simpler than the tail-pvec approach.

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  reply	other threads:[~2014-03-13 12:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-03-11 10:25 [PATCH] mm: implement POSIX_FADV_NOREUSE Matthias Wirth
2014-03-11 14:06 ` Michal Hocko
2014-03-11 15:24   ` Dave Hansen
2014-03-11 21:27     ` Andrew Morton
2014-03-12 11:59       ` Lukas Senger
2014-03-12 14:46         ` Michal Hocko
2014-03-12 16:05         ` Dave Hansen
2014-03-13 12:40           ` Lukas Senger [this message]
2014-03-13 18:43 ` [PATCHv2] " Matthias Wirth
2014-03-13 20:01   ` Andrew Morton
2014-03-14 12:34     ` Lukas Senger
2014-03-14 15:52 ` [PATCHv3] " Matthias Wirth
2014-03-18 15:14   ` Michal Hocko

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