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From: Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>
To: Lance Yang <ioworker0@gmail.com>, akpm@linux-foundation.org
Cc: dj456119@gmail.com, 21cnbao@gmail.com, david@redhat.com,
	shy828301@gmail.com, ziy@nvidia.com, libang.li@antgroup.com,
	baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Mingzhe Yang <mingzhe.yang@ly.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/2] mm: add docs for per-order mTHP split counters
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2024 09:31:51 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <13dcf4be-8c5f-4697-adc1-b68c3da82d78@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240628130750.73097-3-ioworker0@gmail.com>

On 28/06/2024 14:07, Lance Yang wrote:
> This commit introduces documentation for mTHP split counters in
> transhuge.rst.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Mingzhe Yang <mingzhe.yang@ly.com>
> Signed-off-by: Lance Yang <ioworker0@gmail.com>
> ---
>  Documentation/admin-guide/mm/transhuge.rst | 16 ++++++++++++++++
>  1 file changed, 16 insertions(+)
> 
> diff --git a/Documentation/admin-guide/mm/transhuge.rst b/Documentation/admin-guide/mm/transhuge.rst
> index 1f72b00af5d3..709fe10b60f4 100644
> --- a/Documentation/admin-guide/mm/transhuge.rst
> +++ b/Documentation/admin-guide/mm/transhuge.rst
> @@ -514,6 +514,22 @@ file_fallback_charge
>  	falls back to using small pages even though the allocation was
>  	successful.


I note at the top of this section there is a note:

Monitoring usage
================

.. note::
   Currently the below counters only record events relating to
   PMD-sized THP. Events relating to other THP sizes are not included.

Which is out of date, now that we support mTHP stats. Perhaps it should be removed?

>  
> +split
> +	is incremented every time a huge page is successfully split into
> +	base pages. This can happen for a variety of reasons but a common
> +	reason is that a huge page is old and is being reclaimed.
> +	This action implies splitting any block mappings into PTEs.

Now that I'm reading this, I'm reminded that Yang Shi suggested at LSFMM that a
potential aid so solving the swap-out fragmentation problem is to split high
orders to lower (but not 0) orders. I don't know if we would take that route,
but in principle it sounds like splitting mTHP to smaller mTHP might be
something we want some day. I wonder if we should spec this counter to also
include splits to smaller orders and not just splits to base pages?

Actually looking at the code, I think split_huge_page_to_list_to_order(order>0)
would already increment this counter without actually splitting to base pages.
So the documantation should probably just reflect that.

> +
> +split_failed
> +	is incremented if kernel fails to split huge
> +	page. This can happen if the page was pinned by somebody.
> +
> +split_deferred
> +	is incremented when a huge page is put onto split
> +	queue. This happens when a huge page is partially unmapped and
> +	splitting it would free up some memory. Pages on split queue are
> +	going to be split under memory pressure.
> +
>  As the system ages, allocating huge pages may be expensive as the
>  system uses memory compaction to copy data around memory to free a
>  huge page for use. There are some counters in ``/proc/vmstat`` to help



  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-07-01  8:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-06-28 13:07 [PATCH v2 0/2] mm: introduce per-order mTHP split counters Lance Yang
2024-06-28 13:07 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] mm: add " Lance Yang
2024-07-01  0:02   ` Barry Song
2024-07-01  1:42     ` Lance Yang
2024-07-01  2:23     ` Baolin Wang
2024-07-01 10:36       ` Lance Yang
2024-07-01  8:18   ` Ryan Roberts
2024-07-01 10:37     ` Lance Yang
2024-06-28 13:07 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] mm: add docs for " Lance Yang
2024-06-29  3:08   ` Barry Song
2024-06-29 14:30     ` Lance Yang
2024-07-01  8:31   ` Ryan Roberts [this message]
2024-07-01 10:50     ` Lance Yang
2024-07-01 11:46       ` Ryan Roberts

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