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From: Mike Galbraith <umgwanakikbuti@gmail.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: "Jörn Engel" <joern@purestorage.com>,
	"Spencer Baugh" <sbaugh@catern.com>,
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	"Spencer Baugh" <Spencer.baugh@purestorage.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: add resched points to remap_pmd_range/ioremap_pmd_range
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 17:22:55 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1438269775.23663.58.camel@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150729095439.GD15801@dhcp22.suse.cz>

On Wed, 2015-07-29 at 11:54 +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Tue 28-07-15 10:08:44, JA?rn Engel wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 03:32:55PM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > We have kernel preemption disabled.  A lower-priority task in a system
> > > > call will block higher-priority tasks.
> > > 
> > > This is an inherent problem of !PREEMPT, though. There are many
> > > loops which can take quite some time but we do not want to sprinkle
> > > cond_resched all over the kernel. On the other hand these io/remap resp.
> > > vunmap page table walks do not have any cond_resched points AFAICS so we
> > > can at least mimic zap_pmd_range which does cond_resched.
> > 
> > Even for !PREEMPT we don't want infinite scheduler latencies.  Real
> > question is how much we are willing to accept and at what point we
> > should start sprinkling cond_resched.  I would pick 100ms, but that is
> > just a personal choice.  If we decide on 200ms or 500ms, I can live with
> > that too.
> 
> I do not thing this is about a magic value. It is more about natural
> places for scheduling point. As I've written above cond_resched at pmd
> level of the page table walk sounds reasonable to me as we do that
> already for zap_pmd_range and consistency would make sense to me.

I piddled about with the thought that it might be nice to be able to
sprinkle cond_resched() about to cut rt latencies without wrecking
normal load throughput, cobbled together a cond_resched_rt().

On my little box that was a waste of time, as the biggest hits are block
softirq and free_hot_cold_page_list().

	-Mike

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  reply	other threads:[~2015-07-30 15:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-07-23 21:54 [PATCH] mm: add resched points to remap_pmd_range/ioremap_pmd_range Spencer Baugh
2015-07-23 23:32 ` Toshi Kani
2015-07-24 17:00   ` Jörn Engel
2015-07-24  7:04 ` Michal Hocko
2015-07-24 16:56   ` Jörn Engel
2015-07-27  7:08     ` Michal Hocko
2015-07-27  8:29       ` Mike Galbraith
2015-07-27 15:18       ` Jörn Engel
2015-07-28 13:32         ` Michal Hocko
2015-07-28 17:08           ` Jörn Engel
2015-07-29  9:54             ` Michal Hocko
2015-07-30 15:22               ` Mike Galbraith [this message]
2015-07-30 16:58                 ` Jörn Engel
2015-07-30 18:55                   ` Mike Galbraith
2015-08-09  9:25                     ` [hack] sched: create PREEMPT_VOLUNTARY_RT and some RT specific resched points Mike Galbraith
2015-08-09 10:51                       ` Mike Galbraith
2015-08-06  8:55                   ` [PATCH] mm: add resched points to remap_pmd_range/ioremap_pmd_range Mike Galbraith

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