From: Mike Galbraith <umgwanakikbuti@gmail.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: "Jörn Engel" <joern@purestorage.com>,
"Spencer Baugh" <sbaugh@catern.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: add resched points to remap_pmd_range/ioremap_pmd_range
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 17:22:55 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1438269775.23663.58.camel@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150729095439.GD15801@dhcp22.suse.cz>
On Wed, 2015-07-29 at 11:54 +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Tue 28-07-15 10:08:44, JA?rn Engel wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 03:32:55PM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > > >
> > > > We have kernel preemption disabled. A lower-priority task in a system
> > > > call will block higher-priority tasks.
> > >
> > > This is an inherent problem of !PREEMPT, though. There are many
> > > loops which can take quite some time but we do not want to sprinkle
> > > cond_resched all over the kernel. On the other hand these io/remap resp.
> > > vunmap page table walks do not have any cond_resched points AFAICS so we
> > > can at least mimic zap_pmd_range which does cond_resched.
> >
> > Even for !PREEMPT we don't want infinite scheduler latencies. Real
> > question is how much we are willing to accept and at what point we
> > should start sprinkling cond_resched. I would pick 100ms, but that is
> > just a personal choice. If we decide on 200ms or 500ms, I can live with
> > that too.
>
> I do not thing this is about a magic value. It is more about natural
> places for scheduling point. As I've written above cond_resched at pmd
> level of the page table walk sounds reasonable to me as we do that
> already for zap_pmd_range and consistency would make sense to me.
I piddled about with the thought that it might be nice to be able to
sprinkle cond_resched() about to cut rt latencies without wrecking
normal load throughput, cobbled together a cond_resched_rt().
On my little box that was a waste of time, as the biggest hits are block
softirq and free_hot_cold_page_list().
-Mike
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-07-30 15:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-07-23 21:54 [PATCH] mm: add resched points to remap_pmd_range/ioremap_pmd_range Spencer Baugh
2015-07-23 23:32 ` Toshi Kani
2015-07-24 17:00 ` Jörn Engel
2015-07-24 7:04 ` Michal Hocko
2015-07-24 16:56 ` Jörn Engel
2015-07-27 7:08 ` Michal Hocko
2015-07-27 8:29 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-07-27 15:18 ` Jörn Engel
2015-07-28 13:32 ` Michal Hocko
2015-07-28 17:08 ` Jörn Engel
2015-07-29 9:54 ` Michal Hocko
2015-07-30 15:22 ` Mike Galbraith [this message]
2015-07-30 16:58 ` Jörn Engel
2015-07-30 18:55 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-08-09 9:25 ` [hack] sched: create PREEMPT_VOLUNTARY_RT and some RT specific resched points Mike Galbraith
2015-08-09 10:51 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-08-06 8:55 ` [PATCH] mm: add resched points to remap_pmd_range/ioremap_pmd_range Mike Galbraith
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