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From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>
Cc: "Balbir Singh" <bsingharora@gmail.com>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"akpm@linux-foundation.org" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Anshuman Khandual" <khandual@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	"Aneesh Kumar KV" <aneesh.kumar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	"Srikar Dronamraju" <srikar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	"Haren Myneni" <haren@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	"Jérôme Glisse" <jglisse@redhat.com>,
	"Reza Arbab" <arbab@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	"Vlastimil Babka" <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	"Christoph Lameter" <cl@linux.com>,
	"Rik van Riel" <riel@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC summary] Enable Coherent Device Memory
Date: Thu, 18 May 2017 05:37:14 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1495049834.3092.39.camel@kernel.crashing.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170517105812.plj54qwbr334w5r5@techsingularity.net>

On Wed, 2017-05-17 at 11:58 +0100, Mel Gorman wrote:
> The race is a non-issue unless for some reason you decide to hot-add the node
> when the machine is already heavily loaded and under memory pressure. Do it
> near boot time and no CPU-local allocation is going to hit it. In itself,
> special casing the core VM is overkill.
> 
> If you decide to use ZONE_MOVABLE and take the remote hit penalty of page
> tables, then you can also migrate all the pages away after the onlining
> and isolation is complete if it's a serious concern in practice.
> 
> > Unless we have a way to create a node without actually making it
> > available for allocations, so we get a chance to establish policies for
> > it, then "online" it ?
> > 
> 
> Conceivably, that could be done although again it's somewhat overkill
> as the race only applies if hot-adding CDM under heavy memory pressure
> sufficient to overflow to a very remote node.

I wouldn't dismiss the problem that readily. It might by ok for our
initial customer needs but long run, there's a lot of demand for SR-IOV 
GPUs and pass-through.

It's not far fetched to have GPU being dynamically added/removed from
partitions based on usage, which means possibly under significant
pressure.

That said, this can be solved later if needed.

Cheers,
Ben.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-05-17 19:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-05-12  6:18 [RFC summary] Enable Coherent Device Memory Balbir Singh
2017-05-12 10:26 ` Mel Gorman
2017-05-15 23:45   ` Balbir Singh
2017-05-16  8:43     ` Mel Gorman
2017-05-16 22:26       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2017-05-17  8:28         ` Mel Gorman
2017-05-17  9:03           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2017-05-17  9:15             ` Mel Gorman
2017-05-17  9:56               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2017-05-17 10:58                 ` Mel Gorman
2017-05-17 19:35                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2017-05-17 19:37                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
2017-05-17 12:41                 ` Michal Hocko
2017-05-17 13:54         ` Christoph Lameter
2017-05-17 19:39           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt

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