From: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
To: Mike Rapoport <rppt@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: lsf-pc@lists.linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [LSF/MM TOPIC] mm documentation
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2018 09:35:32 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1517333732.3118.49.camel@HansenPartnership.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180130142849.GD21333@rapoport-lnx>
On Tue, 2018-01-30 at 16:28 +0200, Mike Rapoport wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 02:41:41PM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote:
> >
> > On Tue 30-01-18 14:54:44, Mike Rapoport wrote:
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 12:50:55PM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Tue 30-01-18 12:54:50, Mike Rapoport wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > (forgot to CC linux-mm)
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 12:52:37PM +0200, Mike Rapoport
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The mm kernel-doc documentation is not in a great shape.A
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Some of the existing kernel-doc annotations were not
> > > > > > reformatted during transition from dockbook to sphix.
> > > > > > Sometimes the parameter descriptions do not match actual
> > > > > > code. But aside these rather mechanical issues there
> > > > > > are several points it'd like to discuss:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > * Currently, only 14 files are linked to kernel-api.rst
> > > > > > under "Memory Management in Linux" section. We have more
> > > > > > than hundred files only in mm. Even the existing
> > > > > > documentation is not generated when running "make
> > > > > > htmldocs"
> > > >
> > > > Is this documentation anywhere close to be actually useful?
> > >
> > > Some parts are documented better, some worse. For instance,
> > > bootmem and z3fold are covered not bad at all, but, say,
> > > huge_memory has no structured comments at all. Roughly half of
> > > the files in mm/ have some documentation, but I didn't yet read
> > > that all to say how much of it is actually useful.
> >
> > It is good to hear that at least something has a documentation
> > coverage. I was asking mostly because I _think_ that the API
> > documentation is far from the top priority.A
>
> API documentations is important for kernel developers who are not
> deeply involved with mm. When one develops a device driver, knowing
> how to allocate and free memory is essential. And, while *malloc are
> included in kernel-api.rst, CMA and HMM documentation is not visible.
Documentation is also one way new people get into the project.A A Not
being top priority is fine, but "far from" top priority implies not
worth doing, which gives the wrong impression.
> > We are seriously lacking any highlevel one which describes the
> > design and subsytems interaction.
>
> I should have describe it better, but by "creating a new structure
> for mm documentation" I've also meant adding high level description.
>
> >
> > Well, we have missed that train years ago. It will be really hard
> > to catch up.
>
> At least we can try.
How about simply insisting on adequately documenting new stuff and
asking submitters to add documentation when they change something.A A The
latter, at least, is fairly essential: there's nothing worse than
documentation that's actively wrong. A The former is useful to
reviewers. A I'm not saying this alone will ever get you to 100%, but at
least it's an incremental change which isn't too burdensome and which
moves the needle in the right direction.
James
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Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <20180130105237.GB7201@rapoport-lnx>
2018-01-30 10:54 ` [LSF/MM TOPIC] mm documentation Mike Rapoport
2018-01-30 11:50 ` Michal Hocko
2018-01-30 12:54 ` Mike Rapoport
2018-01-30 13:41 ` Michal Hocko
2018-01-30 14:28 ` Mike Rapoport
2018-01-30 17:32 ` Randy Dunlap
2018-01-31 10:56 ` Mike Rapoport
2018-01-30 17:35 ` James Bottomley [this message]
2018-01-31 2:38 ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-01-31 9:00 ` Michal Hocko
2018-01-31 14:59 ` Mike Rapoport
2019-01-28 7:04 [LSF/MM TOPIC]: " Mike Rapoport
2019-02-22 13:59 ` Jonathan Cameron
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2021-05-20 8:56 [LSF/MM TOPIC] " Mike Rapoport
2021-05-20 14:19 ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-05-21 8:36 ` Mike Rapoport
2021-05-25 7:04 ` Souptick Joarder
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