From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: Daniel Gomez <da.gomez@samsung.com>,
"minchan@kernel.org" <minchan@kernel.org>,
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Pankaj Raghav <p.raghav@samsung.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/6] shmem: high order folios support in write path
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2023 17:43:20 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <15b067d7-8f95-d409-64be-d22359f0942a@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZQR7CyddIQQAs3yb@casper.infradead.org>
On 15.09.23 17:40, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 15, 2023 at 05:36:27PM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>> On 15.09.23 17:34, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
>>> No, it can't. This patchset triggers only on write, not on read or page
>>> fault, and it's conservative, so it will only allocate folios which are
>>> entirely covered by the write. IOW this is memory we must allocate in
>>> order to satisfy the write; we're just allocating it in larger chunks
>>> when we can.
>>
>> Oh, good! I was assuming you would eventually over-allocate on the write
>> path.
>
> We might! But that would be a different patchset, and it would be
> subject to its own discussion.
>
> Something else I've been wondering about is possibly reallocating the
> pages on a write. This would apply to both normal files and shmem.
> If you read in a file one byte at a time, then overwrite a big chunk of
> it with a large single write, that seems like a good signal that maybe
> we should manage that part of the file as a single large chunk instead
> of individual pages. Maybe.
>
> Lots of things for people who are obsessed with performance to play
> with ;-)
:) Absolutely. ... because if nobody will be consuming that written
memory any time soon, it might also be the wrong place for a large/huge
folio.
--
Cheers,
David / dhildenb
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-09-15 15:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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2023-09-15 9:51 ` [PATCH 0/6] shmem: high order folios support in write path Daniel Gomez
[not found] ` <CGME20230915095124eucas1p1eb0e0ef883f6316cf14c349404a51150@eucas1p1.samsung.com>
2023-09-15 9:51 ` [PATCH 1/6] filemap: make the folio order calculation shareable Daniel Gomez
2023-09-15 13:40 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-09-18 8:41 ` Daniel Gomez
2023-09-18 18:09 ` Luis Chamberlain
2023-09-18 18:24 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-09-18 18:42 ` Luis Chamberlain
[not found] ` <CGME20230915095126eucas1p2cf75674dab8a81228f493a7200f4a1ba@eucas1p2.samsung.com>
2023-09-15 9:51 ` [PATCH 2/6] shmem: drop BLOCKS_PER_PAGE macro Daniel Gomez
[not found] ` <CGME20230915095128eucas1p2885c3add58d82413d9c1d17832d3d281@eucas1p2.samsung.com>
2023-09-15 9:51 ` [PATCH 3/6] shmem: account for large order folios Daniel Gomez
2023-09-15 12:14 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-09-15 13:44 ` Matthew Wilcox
[not found] ` <CGME20230915095129eucas1p1383d75c6d62056afbb20b78a3ec15234@eucas1p1.samsung.com>
2023-09-15 9:51 ` [PATCH 4/6] shmem: add order parameter support to shmem_alloc_folio Daniel Gomez
2023-09-15 12:19 ` Matthew Wilcox
[not found] ` <CGME20230915095131eucas1p1010e364cd1c351e5b7379954bd237a3d@eucas1p1.samsung.com>
2023-09-15 9:51 ` [PATCH 5/6] shmem: add file length in shmem_get_folio path Daniel Gomez
2023-09-15 15:37 ` Matthew Wilcox
[not found] ` <CGME20230915095133eucas1p267bade2888b7fcd2e1ea8e13e21c495f@eucas1p2.samsung.com>
2023-09-15 9:51 ` [PATCH 6/6] shmem: add large folios support to the write path Daniel Gomez
2023-09-15 18:26 ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-09-18 8:00 ` Daniel Gomez
2023-09-18 18:55 ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-09-19 13:27 ` Daniel Gomez
2023-09-19 16:00 ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-09-19 21:46 ` Luis Chamberlain
2023-09-19 21:51 ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-09-15 15:29 ` [PATCH 0/6] shmem: high order folios support in " David Hildenbrand
2023-09-15 15:34 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-09-15 15:36 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-09-15 15:40 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-09-15 15:43 ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2023-09-18 7:32 ` Daniel Gomez
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