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From: Binbin Wu <binbin.wu@linux.intel.com>
To: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>, Yan Zhao <yan.y.zhao@intel.com>
Cc: Ackerley Tng <ackerleytng@google.com>,
	sagis@google.com, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org,
	afranji@google.com, erdemaktas@google.com,
	isaku.yamahata@intel.com, pbonzini@redhat.com, shuah@kernel.org,
	pgonda@google.com, haibo1.xu@intel.com,
	chao.p.peng@linux.intel.com, vannapurve@google.com,
	runanwang@google.com, vipinsh@google.com, jmattson@google.com,
	dmatlack@google.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v5 09/29] KVM: selftests: TDX: Add report_fatal_error test
Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2024 19:16:44 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <18729cf6-bf3a-4a11-a9fc-a35792cd1736@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZibVbYawGJFcJqd1@google.com>



On 4/23/2024 5:23 AM, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 18, 2024, Yan Zhao wrote:
>> On Tue, Apr 16, 2024 at 11:50:19AM -0700, Sean Christopherson wrote:
>>> On Mon, Apr 15, 2024, Yan Zhao wrote:
>>>> On Mon, Apr 15, 2024 at 08:05:49AM +0000, Ackerley Tng wrote:
>>>>>>> The Intel GHCI Spec says in R12, bit 63 is set if the GPA is valid. As a
>>>>>> But above "__LINE__" is obviously not a valid GPA.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do you think it's better to check "data_gpa" is with shared bit on and
>>>>>> aligned in 4K before setting bit 63?
>>>>>>
>>>>> I read "valid" in the spec to mean that the value in R13 "should be
>>>>> considered as useful" or "should be passed on to the host VMM via the
>>>>> TDX module", and not so much as in "validated".
>>>>>
>>>>> We could validate the data_gpa as you suggested to check alignment and
>>>>> shared bit, but perhaps that could be a higher-level function that calls
>>>>> tdg_vp_vmcall_report_fatal_error()?
>>>>>
>>>>> If it helps, shall we rename "data_gpa" to "data" for this lower-level,
>>>>> generic helper function and remove these two lines
>>>>>
>>>>> if (data_gpa)
>>>>> 	error_code |= 0x8000000000000000;
>>>>>
>>>>> A higher-level function could perhaps do the validation as you suggested
>>>>> and then set bit 63.
>>>> This could be all right. But I'm not sure if it would be a burden for
>>>> higher-level function to set bit 63 which is of GHCI details.
>>>>
>>>> What about adding another "data_gpa_valid" parameter and then test
>>>> "data_gpa_valid" rather than test "data_gpa" to set bit 63?
>>> Who cares what the GHCI says about validity?  The GHCI is a spec for getting
>>> random guests to play nice with random hosts.  Selftests own both, and the goal
>>> of selftests is to test that KVM (and KVM's dependencies) adhere to their relevant
>>> specs.  And more importantly, KVM is NOT inheriting the GHCI ABI verbatim[*].
>>>
>>> So except for the bits and bobs that *KVM* (or the TDX module) gets involved in,
>>> just ignore the GHCI (or even deliberately abuse it).  To put it differently, use
>>> selftests verify *KVM's* ABI and functionality.
>>>
>>> As it pertains to this thread, while I haven't looked at any of this in detail,
>>> I'm guessing that whether or not bit 63 is set is a complete "don't care", i.e.
>>> KVM and the TDX Module should pass it through as-is.
>>>
>>> [*] https://lore.kernel.org/all/Zg18ul8Q4PGQMWam@google.com
>> Ok. It makes sense to KVM_EXIT_TDX.
>> But what if the TDVMCALL is handled in TDX specific code in kernel in future?
>> (not possible?)
> KVM will "handle" ReportFatalError, and will do so before this code lands[*], but
> I *highly* doubt KVM will ever do anything but forward the information to userspace,
> e.g. as KVM_SYSTEM_EVENT_CRASH with data[] filled in with the raw register information.
>
>> Should guest set bits correctly according to GHCI?
> No.  Selftests exist first and foremost to verify KVM behavior, not to verify
> firmware behavior.  We can and should use selftests to verify that *KVM* doesn't
> *violate* the GHCI, but that doesn't mean that selftests themselves can't ignore
> and/or abuse the GCHI, especially since the GHCI definition for ReportFatalError
> is frankly awful.
>
> E.g. the GHCI prescibes actual behavior for R13, but then doesn't say *anything*
> about what's in the data page.  Why!?!?!  If the format in the data page is
> completely undefined, what's the point of restricting R13 to only be allowed to
> hold a GPA?

The description of R13 in GHCI:
   4KB-aligned GPA where additional error data is shared by the TD. The
   VMM must validate that this GPA has the Shared bit set. In other words,
   that a shared-mapping is used, and that this is a valid mapping for the
   TD. This shared memory region is expected to hold a zero-terminated
   string.

IIUC, according the GHCI, R13 is a 4K aligned shared buffer provided by
the TDX guest to pass additional error message to VMM, i.e., it needs to
be a shared GPA.  And the content in the buffer is expected to hold a
zero-terminated string.

Do you think "a zero-terminated string" describes the format in the data
page?


>
> And the wording is just as awful:
>
>    The VMM must validate that this GPA has the Shared bit set. In other words,
>    that a shared-mapping is used, and that this is a valid mapping for the TD.
>
> I'm pretty sure it's just saying that the TDX module isn't going to verify the
> operate, i.e. that the VMM needs to protect itself, but it would be so much
> better to simply state "The TDX Module does not verify this GPA", because saying
> the VMM "must" do something leads to pointless discussions like this one, where
> we're debating over whether or *our* VMM should inject an error into *our* guest.
>
> Anyways, we should do what makes sense for selftests and ignore the stupidity of
> the GHCI when doing so yields better code.  If that means abusing R13, go for it.
> If it's a sticking point for anyone, just use one of the "optional" registers.
>
> Whatever we do, bury the host and guest side of selftests behind #defines or helpers
> so that there are at most two pieces of code that care which register holds which
> piece of information.
>
> [*] https://lore.kernel.org/all/20240404230247.GU2444378@ls.amr.corp.intel.com
>



  reply	other threads:[~2024-07-28 11:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 109+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-12-12 20:46 [RFC PATCH v5 00/29] TDX KVM selftests Sagi Shahar
2023-12-12 20:46 ` [RFC PATCH v5 01/29] KVM: selftests: Add function to allow one-to-one GVA to GPA mappings Sagi Shahar
2024-02-21  1:43   ` Binbin Wu
2024-07-23 19:55     ` Sagi Shahar
2024-03-21 22:29   ` Zhang, Dongsheng X
2024-07-23 19:56     ` Sagi Shahar
2023-12-12 20:46 ` [RFC PATCH v5 02/29] KVM: selftests: Expose function that sets up sregs based on VM's mode Sagi Shahar
2024-02-21  2:18   ` Binbin Wu
2023-12-12 20:46 ` [RFC PATCH v5 03/29] KVM: selftests: Store initial stack address in struct kvm_vcpu Sagi Shahar
2024-02-21  2:29   ` Binbin Wu
2023-12-12 20:46 ` [RFC PATCH v5 04/29] KVM: selftests: Refactor steps in vCPU descriptor table initialization Sagi Shahar
2024-02-21  5:43   ` Binbin Wu
2024-07-23 21:25     ` Sagi Shahar
2023-12-12 20:46 ` [RFC PATCH v5 05/29] KVM: selftests: Add helper functions to create TDX VMs Sagi Shahar
2024-02-22  9:24   ` Yan Zhao
2024-02-28 16:19   ` Binbin Wu
2024-03-21 22:54   ` Zhang, Dongsheng X
2024-04-12  5:34     ` Ackerley Tng
2023-12-12 20:46 ` [RFC PATCH v5 06/29] KVM: selftests: TDX: Use KVM_TDX_CAPABILITIES to validate TDs' attribute configuration Sagi Shahar
2024-02-29  8:31   ` Binbin Wu
2023-12-12 20:46 ` [RFC PATCH v5 07/29] KVM: selftests: TDX: Update load_td_memory_region for VM memory backed by guest memfd Sagi Shahar
2024-02-22  9:19   ` Yan Zhao
2024-07-24 16:42     ` Ackerley Tng
2024-07-25 18:19       ` Ackerley Tng
2023-12-12 20:46 ` [RFC PATCH v5 08/29] KVM: selftests: TDX: Add TDX lifecycle test Sagi Shahar
2024-02-23  1:55   ` Chen Yu
2024-03-01  4:58   ` Yan Zhao
2024-03-01  7:36   ` Yan Zhao
2024-03-21 23:20   ` Zhang, Dongsheng X
2024-04-12  4:42     ` Ackerley Tng
2024-03-22 21:33   ` Chen, Zide
2024-07-25 19:52     ` Sagi Shahar
2023-12-12 20:46 ` [RFC PATCH v5 09/29] KVM: selftests: TDX: Add report_fatal_error test Sagi Shahar
2024-02-29 12:31   ` Binbin Wu
2024-03-01  6:52   ` Binbin Wu
2024-07-25 20:37     ` Sagi Shahar
2024-03-01 12:09   ` Yan Zhao
2024-04-12  4:56     ` Ackerley Tng
2024-04-12 11:57       ` Yan Zhao
2024-04-15  8:05         ` Ackerley Tng
2024-04-15 10:09           ` Yan Zhao
2024-04-16 18:50             ` Sean Christopherson
2024-04-17 22:41               ` Yan Zhao
2024-04-22 21:23                 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-07-28 11:16                   ` Binbin Wu [this message]
2023-12-12 20:46 ` [RFC PATCH v5 10/29] KVM: selftests: TDX: Adding test case for TDX port IO Sagi Shahar
2024-02-29 13:20   ` Binbin Wu
2024-03-04  2:19   ` Yan Zhao
2024-03-04  9:16     ` Binbin Wu
2024-03-04  9:18       ` Yan Zhao
2024-07-25 22:35     ` Sagi Shahar
2023-12-12 20:46 ` [RFC PATCH v5 11/29] KVM: selftests: TDX: Add basic TDX CPUID test Sagi Shahar
2023-12-12 20:46 ` [RFC PATCH v5 12/29] KVM: selftests: TDX: Add basic get_td_vmcall_info test Sagi Shahar
2024-03-01  6:03   ` Binbin Wu
2023-12-12 20:46 ` [RFC PATCH v5 13/29] KVM: selftests: TDX: Add TDX IO writes test Sagi Shahar
2024-03-01  6:55   ` Binbin Wu
2023-12-12 20:46 ` [RFC PATCH v5 14/29] KVM: selftests: TDX: Add TDX IO reads test Sagi Shahar
2024-03-01  8:22   ` Binbin Wu
2023-12-12 20:46 ` [RFC PATCH v5 15/29] KVM: selftests: TDX: Add TDX MSR read/write tests Sagi Shahar
2024-03-01 12:00   ` Binbin Wu
2024-03-01 12:09     ` Binbin Wu
2024-03-05  0:22   ` Yan Zhao
2024-03-21 23:40   ` Zhang, Dongsheng X
2023-12-12 20:46 ` [RFC PATCH v5 16/29] KVM: selftests: TDX: Add TDX HLT exit test Sagi Shahar
2024-03-02  7:31   ` Binbin Wu
2024-03-05  5:40     ` Yan Zhao
2024-07-27 23:23       ` Sagi Shahar
2023-12-12 20:46 ` [RFC PATCH v5 17/29] KVM: selftests: TDX: Add TDX MMIO reads test Sagi Shahar
2024-03-05  7:09   ` Yan Zhao
2024-03-21 23:45   ` Zhang, Dongsheng X
2023-12-12 20:46 ` [RFC PATCH v5 18/29] KVM: selftests: TDX: Add TDX MMIO writes test Sagi Shahar
2024-03-02  7:58   ` Binbin Wu
2024-03-05  8:58   ` Yan Zhao
2024-07-30 19:03     ` Sagi Shahar
2024-03-21 23:46   ` Zhang, Dongsheng X
2023-12-12 20:46 ` [RFC PATCH v5 19/29] KVM: selftests: TDX: Add TDX CPUID TDVMCALL test Sagi Shahar
2023-12-12 20:46 ` [RFC PATCH v5 20/29] KVM: selftests: TDX: Verify the behavior when host consumes a TD private memory Sagi Shahar
2023-12-12 20:46 ` [RFC PATCH v5 21/29] KVM: selftests: TDX: Add TDG.VP.INFO test Sagi Shahar
2024-03-06  4:50   ` Yan Zhao
2023-12-12 20:46 ` [RFC PATCH v5 22/29] KVM: selftests: Add functions to allow mapping as shared Sagi Shahar
2024-03-05 11:09   ` Yan Zhao
     [not found]   ` <DS7PR11MB7886BD37E5E56DAB9A0087A3F6292@DS7PR11MB7886.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
2024-03-16  6:24     ` Chen, Zide
2023-12-12 20:46 ` [RFC PATCH v5 23/29] KVM: selftests: TDX: Add shared memory test Sagi Shahar
2024-03-01 12:02   ` Yan Zhao
2024-03-06  1:36     ` Yan Zhao
2024-03-06  1:20   ` Yan Zhao
     [not found]   ` <DS7PR11MB7886AA5F8A19CDFCB5566B0EF6292@DS7PR11MB7886.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
2024-03-16  6:24     ` Chen, Zide
2023-12-12 20:46 ` [RFC PATCH v5 24/29] KVM: selftests: Expose _vm_vaddr_alloc Sagi Shahar
2024-03-04  9:55   ` Binbin Wu
2024-03-06  1:49   ` Yan Zhao
2023-12-12 20:46 ` [RFC PATCH v5 25/29] KVM: selftests: TDX: Add support for TDG.MEM.PAGE.ACCEPT Sagi Shahar
2023-12-12 20:46 ` [RFC PATCH v5 26/29] KVM: selftests: TDX: Add support for TDG.VP.VEINFO.GET Sagi Shahar
2024-03-04 13:56   ` Binbin Wu
2023-12-12 20:46 ` [RFC PATCH v5 27/29] KVM: selftests: Propagate KVM_EXIT_MEMORY_FAULT to userspace Sagi Shahar
     [not found]   ` <DS7PR11MB78860170A5FD77253573BC09F6292@DS7PR11MB7886.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
2024-03-14 21:46     ` Chen, Zide
2023-12-12 20:46 ` [RFC PATCH v5 28/29] KVM: selftests: TDX: Add TDX UPM selftest Sagi Shahar
2024-03-05  4:57   ` Binbin Wu
2024-03-06  8:54   ` Yan Zhao
2023-12-12 20:46 ` [RFC PATCH v5 29/29] KVM: selftests: TDX: Add TDX UPM selftests for implicit conversion Sagi Shahar
2024-06-05 18:38 ` [RFC PATCH v5 00/29] TDX KVM selftests Verma, Vishal L
2024-06-05 20:10   ` Sagi Shahar
2024-06-05 20:15     ` Verma, Vishal L
2024-06-05 20:18       ` Verma, Vishal L
2024-06-05 20:42         ` Sagi Shahar
2024-06-05 20:56           ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-06-05 21:34             ` Sagi Shahar
2024-06-05 21:44               ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-06-21  2:51                 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-06-21 20:52                   ` Sagi Shahar

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