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From: Diego Calleja <diegocg@gmail.com>
To: "Artem S. Tashkinov" <t.artem@lycos.com>
Cc: david@lang.hm, neilb@suse.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	torvalds@linux-foundation.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	axboe@kernel.dk, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: Disabling in-memory write cache for x86-64 in Linux II
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 21:40:13 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1999200.Zdacx0scmY@diego-arch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <154617470.12445.1382725583671.JavaMail.mail@webmail11>

El Viernes, 25 de octubre de 2013 18:26:23 Artem S. Tashkinov escribió:
> Oct 25, 2013 05:26:45 PM, david wrote:
> >actually, I think the problem is more the impact of the huge write later
> >on.
> Exactly. And not being able to use applications which show you IO
> performance like Midnight Commander. You might prefer to use "cp -a" but I
> cannot imagine my life without being able to see the progress of a copying
> operation. With the current dirty cache there's no way to understand how
> you storage media actually behaves.


This is a problem I also have been suffering for a long time. It's not so much 
how much and when the systems syncs dirty data, but how unreponsive the 
desktop becomes when it happens (usually, with rsync + large files). Most 
programs become completely unreponsive, specially if they have a large memory 
consumption (ie. the browser). I need to pause rsync and wait until the 
systems writes out all dirty data if I want to do simple things like scrolling 
or do any action that uses I/O, otherwise I need to wait minutes.

I have 16 GB of RAM and excluding the browser (which usually uses about half 
of a GB) and KDE itself, there are no memory hogs, so it seem like it's 
something that shouldn't happen. I can understand that I/O operations are 
laggy when there is some other intensive I/O ongoing, but right now the system 
becomes completely unreponsive. If I am unlucky and Konsole also becomes 
unreponsive, I need to switch to a VT (which also takes time).

I haven't reported it before in part because I didn't know how to do it, "my 
browser stalls" is not a very useful description and I didn't know what kind 
of data I'm supposed to report.

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  reply	other threads:[~2013-10-25 19:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-10-25  7:25 Disabling in-memory write cache for x86-64 in Linux II Artem S. Tashkinov
2013-10-25  8:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-11-05  0:50   ` Andreas Dilger
2013-11-05  4:12     ` Dave Chinner
2013-11-07 13:48       ` Jan Kara
2013-11-11  3:22         ` Dave Chinner
2013-11-11 19:31           ` Jan Kara
2013-11-05  6:32   ` Figo.zhang
2013-10-25 10:49 ` NeilBrown
2013-10-25 11:26   ` David Lang
2013-10-25 18:26     ` Artem S. Tashkinov
2013-10-25 19:40       ` Diego Calleja [this message]
2013-10-25 23:32         ` Fengguang Wu
2013-11-15 15:48           ` Diego Calleja
2013-10-25 20:43       ` NeilBrown
2013-10-25 21:03         ` Artem S. Tashkinov
2013-10-25 22:11           ` NeilBrown
2013-11-05  1:40             ` Figo.zhang
2013-11-05  1:47               ` David Lang
2013-11-05  2:08               ` NeilBrown
2013-10-29 20:49       ` Jan Kara

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