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From: Qi Zheng <qi.zheng@linux.dev>
To: Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>
Cc: Harry Yoo <harry.yoo@oracle.com>,
	hannes@cmpxchg.org, hughd@google.com, mhocko@suse.com,
	roman.gushchin@linux.dev, muchun.song@linux.dev,
	david@redhat.com, lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com, ziy@nvidia.com,
	imran.f.khan@oracle.com, kamalesh.babulal@oracle.com,
	axelrasmussen@google.com, yuanchu@google.com, weixugc@google.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
	Muchun Song <songmuchun@bytedance.com>,
	Qi Zheng <zhengqi.arch@bytedance.com>,
	Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
	Clark Williams <clrkwllms@kernel.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	linux-rt-devel@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 04/26] mm: vmscan: refactor move_folios_to_lru()
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2025 11:24:37 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1a6dfda1-380d-4e6b-af72-4e6257838c08@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <646pwrc7sxan6wlwndjyu7upx32fkd7bv5vqlut3tjt65eeyby@23efyxvpg2nx>



On 11/11/25 11:17 AM, Shakeel Butt wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 11, 2025 at 11:04:09AM +0800, Qi Zheng wrote:
>>
>> On 11/11/25 12:47 AM, Shakeel Butt wrote:
>>> On Mon, Nov 10, 2025 at 02:43:21PM +0900, Harry Yoo wrote:
>>>> On Mon, Nov 10, 2025 at 12:30:06PM +0800, Qi Zheng wrote:
>>>>>> Maybe we could make it safe against re-entrant IRQ handlers by using
>>>>>> read-modify-write operations?
>>>>>
>>>>> Isn't it because of the RMW operation that we need to use IRQ to
>>>>> guarantee atomicity? Or have I misunderstood something?
>>>>
>>>> I meant using atomic operations instead of disabling IRQs, like, by
>>>> using this_cpu_add() or cmpxchg() instead.
>>>
>>> We already have mod_node_page_state() which is safe from IRQs and is
>>> optimized to not disable IRQs for archs with HAVE_CMPXCHG_LOCAL which
>>> includes x86 and arm64.
>>
>> However, in the !CONFIG_HAVE_CMPXCHG_LOCAL case, mod_node_page_state()
>> still calls local_irq_save(). Is this feasible in the PREEMPT_RT kernel?
>>
> 
> Yes we can disable irqs on PREEMPT_RT but it is usually frown upon and
> it is usually requested to do so only for short window. However if

Got it.

> someone running PREEMPT_RT on an arch without HAVE_CMPXCHG_LOCAL and has
> issues with mod_node_page_state() then they can solve it then. I don't
> think we need to fix that now.

OK.

> 



  reply	other threads:[~2025-11-11  3:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-28 13:58 [PATCH v1 00/26] Eliminate Dying Memory Cgroup Qi Zheng
2025-10-28 13:58 ` [PATCH v1 01/26] mm: memcontrol: remove dead code of checking parent memory cgroup Qi Zheng
2025-11-07  1:40   ` Harry Yoo
2025-10-28 13:58 ` [PATCH v1 02/26] mm: workingset: use folio_lruvec() in workingset_refault() Qi Zheng
2025-11-07  1:55   ` Harry Yoo
2025-10-28 13:58 ` [PATCH v1 03/26] mm: rename unlock_page_lruvec_irq and its variants Qi Zheng
2025-11-07  2:03   ` Harry Yoo
2025-10-28 13:58 ` [PATCH v1 04/26] mm: vmscan: refactor move_folios_to_lru() Qi Zheng
2025-11-07  5:11   ` Harry Yoo
2025-11-07  6:41     ` Qi Zheng
2025-11-07 13:20       ` Harry Yoo
2025-11-08  6:32         ` Shakeel Butt
2025-11-10  2:13           ` Harry Yoo
2025-11-10  4:30             ` Qi Zheng
2025-11-10  5:43               ` Harry Yoo
2025-11-10  6:11                 ` Qi Zheng
2025-11-10 16:47                 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-11-11  0:42                   ` Harry Yoo
2025-11-11  3:04                   ` Qi Zheng
2025-11-11  3:16                     ` Harry Yoo
2025-11-11  3:23                       ` Qi Zheng
2025-11-11  8:49                       ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-11-11  3:17                     ` Shakeel Butt
2025-11-11  3:24                       ` Qi Zheng [this message]
2025-11-07  7:18     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-10-28 13:58 ` [PATCH v1 05/26] mm: memcontrol: allocate object cgroup for non-kmem case Qi Zheng
2025-10-28 13:58 ` [PATCH v1 06/26] mm: memcontrol: return root object cgroup for root memory cgroup Qi Zheng
2025-10-28 13:58 ` [PATCH v1 07/26] mm: memcontrol: prevent memory cgroup release in get_mem_cgroup_from_folio() Qi Zheng
2025-10-28 13:58 ` [PATCH v1 08/26] buffer: prevent memory cgroup release in folio_alloc_buffers() Qi Zheng
2025-10-28 13:58 ` [PATCH v1 09/26] writeback: prevent memory cgroup release in writeback module Qi Zheng
2025-10-28 13:58 ` [PATCH v1 10/26] mm: memcontrol: prevent memory cgroup release in count_memcg_folio_events() Qi Zheng
2025-10-28 13:58 ` [PATCH v1 11/26] mm: page_io: prevent memory cgroup release in page_io module Qi Zheng
2025-10-28 13:58 ` [PATCH v1 12/26] mm: migrate: prevent memory cgroup release in folio_migrate_mapping() Qi Zheng
2025-10-28 13:58 ` [PATCH v1 13/26] mm: mglru: prevent memory cgroup release in mglru Qi Zheng
2025-10-28 13:58 ` [PATCH v1 14/26] mm: memcontrol: prevent memory cgroup release in mem_cgroup_swap_full() Qi Zheng
2025-10-28 13:58 ` [PATCH v1 15/26] mm: workingset: prevent memory cgroup release in lru_gen_eviction() Qi Zheng
2025-10-28 13:58 ` [PATCH v1 16/26] mm: thp: prevent memory cgroup release in folio_split_queue_lock{_irqsave}() Qi Zheng
2025-10-28 13:58 ` [PATCH v1 17/26] mm: workingset: prevent lruvec release in workingset_refault() Qi Zheng
2025-10-28 13:58 ` [PATCH v1 18/26] mm: zswap: prevent lruvec release in zswap_folio_swapin() Qi Zheng
2025-10-28 13:58 ` [PATCH v1 19/26] mm: swap: prevent lruvec release in swap module Qi Zheng
2025-10-28 13:58 ` [PATCH v1 20/26] mm: workingset: prevent lruvec release in workingset_activation() Qi Zheng
2025-10-28 13:58 ` [PATCH v1 21/26] mm: memcontrol: prepare for reparenting LRU pages for lruvec lock Qi Zheng
2025-11-04  6:49   ` kernel test robot
2025-11-04  8:59     ` Qi Zheng
2025-10-28 13:58 ` [PATCH v1 22/26] mm: vmscan: prepare for reparenting traditional LRU folios Qi Zheng
2025-10-28 13:58 ` [PATCH v1 23/26] mm: vmscan: prepare for reparenting MGLRU folios Qi Zheng
2025-10-28 13:58 ` [PATCH v1 24/26] mm: memcontrol: refactor memcg_reparent_objcgs() Qi Zheng
2025-10-28 13:58 ` [PATCH v1 25/26] mm: memcontrol: eliminate the problem of dying memory cgroup for LRU folios Qi Zheng
2025-10-28 13:58 ` [PATCH v1 26/26] mm: lru: add VM_WARN_ON_ONCE_FOLIO to lru maintenance helpers Qi Zheng
2025-10-28 20:58 ` [syzbot ci] Re: Eliminate Dying Memory Cgroup syzbot ci
2025-10-29  0:22   ` Harry Yoo
2025-10-29  0:25     ` syzbot ci
2025-10-29  3:12     ` Qi Zheng
2025-10-29  7:53 ` [PATCH v1 00/26] " Michal Hocko
2025-10-29  8:05   ` Qi Zheng
2025-10-31 10:35     ` Michal Hocko
2025-11-03  3:33       ` Qi Zheng

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