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From: Dev Jain <dev.jain@arm.com>
To: Nico Pache <npache@redhat.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 07/12] khugepaged: add mTHP support
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2025 20:12:23 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1ae94fa5-8d68-4e4f-83e2-dfeefaab253a@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2666b1a8-12c0-475e-9aad-2fdc3e846e9a@arm.com>


On 07/06/25 8:01 pm, Dev Jain wrote:
>
> On 07/06/25 6:33 pm, Nico Pache wrote:
>> On Sat, Jun 7, 2025 at 12:24 AM Dev Jain <dev.jain@arm.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 15/05/25 8:52 am, Nico Pache wrote:
>>>> Introduce the ability for khugepaged to collapse to different mTHP 
>>>> sizes.
>>>> While scanning PMD ranges for potential collapse candidates, keep 
>>>> track
>>>> of pages in KHUGEPAGED_MIN_MTHP_ORDER chunks via a bitmap. Each bit
>>>> represents a utilized region of order KHUGEPAGED_MIN_MTHP_ORDER 
>>>> ptes. If
>>>> mTHPs are enabled we remove the restriction of max_ptes_none during 
>>>> the
>>>> scan phase so we dont bailout early and miss potential mTHP 
>>>> candidates.
>>>>
>>>> After the scan is complete we will perform binary recursion on the
>>>> bitmap to determine which mTHP size would be most efficient to 
>>>> collapse
>>>> to. max_ptes_none will be scaled by the attempted collapse order to
>>>> determine how full a THP must be to be eligible.
>>>>
>>>> If a mTHP collapse is attempted, but contains swapped out, or shared
>>>> pages, we dont perform the collapse.
>>>>
>>>> For non PMD collapse we much leave the anon VMA write locked until 
>>>> after
>>>> we collapse the mTHP
>>> Why? I know that Hugh pointed out locking errors; I am yet to catch up
>>> on that thread, but you need to explain in the description why you do
>>> what you do.
>>>
>>> [--snip---]
>>>
>>>> -
>>>> -     spin_lock(pmd_ptl);
>>>> -     BUG_ON(!pmd_none(*pmd));
>>>> -     folio_add_new_anon_rmap(folio, vma, address, RMAP_EXCLUSIVE);
>>>> -     folio_add_lru_vma(folio, vma);
>>>> -     pgtable_trans_huge_deposit(mm, pmd, pgtable);
>>>> -     set_pmd_at(mm, address, pmd, _pmd);
>>>> -     update_mmu_cache_pmd(vma, address, pmd);
>>>> -     deferred_split_folio(folio, false);
>>>> -     spin_unlock(pmd_ptl);
>>>> +     if (order == HPAGE_PMD_ORDER) {
>>>> +             pgtable = pmd_pgtable(_pmd);
>>>> +             _pmd = folio_mk_pmd(folio, vma->vm_page_prot);
>>>> +             _pmd = maybe_pmd_mkwrite(pmd_mkdirty(_pmd), vma);
>>>> +
>>>> +             spin_lock(pmd_ptl);
>>>> +             BUG_ON(!pmd_none(*pmd));
>>>> +             folio_add_new_anon_rmap(folio, vma, _address, 
>>>> RMAP_EXCLUSIVE);
>>>> +             folio_add_lru_vma(folio, vma);
>>>> +             pgtable_trans_huge_deposit(mm, pmd, pgtable);
>>>> +             set_pmd_at(mm, address, pmd, _pmd);
>>>> +             update_mmu_cache_pmd(vma, address, pmd);
>>>> +             deferred_split_folio(folio, false);
>>>> +             spin_unlock(pmd_ptl);
>>>> +     } else { /* mTHP collapse */
>>>> +             mthp_pte = mk_pte(&folio->page, vma->vm_page_prot);
>>>> +             mthp_pte = maybe_mkwrite(pte_mkdirty(mthp_pte), vma);
>>>> +
>>>> +             spin_lock(pmd_ptl);
>>> Nico,
>>>
>>> I've noticed a few occasions where my review comments have not been 
>>> acknowledged -
>>> for example, [1]. It makes it difficult to follow up and contributes 
>>> to some
>>> frustration on my end. I'd appreciate if you could make sure to 
>>> respond to
>>> feedback, even if you are disagreeing with my comments. Thanks!
>> I'm sorry you feel that way, are there any others? I feel like I've
>> been pretty good at responding to all comments. I've also been out of
>> the office for the last month, so keeping up with upstream has been
>> more difficult, but i'm back now.
>
> No issues, there were others but I don't want to waste our time digging
> them up, when we are on the same page!

To be clear, those others were when we were debating about your and my 
method,

that is why I said it is a waste of time revisiting them :)


>
>>
>> Sorry I never got back to you on that one! I will add the BUG_ON, but
>> I believe it's unnecessary. Your changeset was focused on different
>> functionality and it seems that you had a bug in it if you were
>> hitting that often.
>
> In my original reply, when I said "I hit the BUG_ON a lot of times",
> I meant, during testing. It was quite difficult to extend for non-PMD
> sized VMAs, and the BUG_ON was getting hit due to rmap reaching the
> non-isolated folios and somehow installing the PMD again. That is
> why I say that the BUG_ON is important since it will help us catch
> bugs early. And we have that for the PMD case anyways so why not
> for mTHP...
>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -- Nico
>>>
>>> [1] 
>>> https://lore.kernel.org/all/08d13445-5ed1-42ea-8aee-c1dbde24407e@arm.com/
>>>
>>>
>>> [---snip---]
>>>
>>
>


  reply	other threads:[~2025-06-07 14:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-15  3:22 [PATCH v7 00/12] khugepaged: mTHP support Nico Pache
2025-05-15  3:22 ` [PATCH v7 01/12] khugepaged: rename hpage_collapse_* to khugepaged_* Nico Pache
2025-05-16 17:30   ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-06-29  6:48     ` Nico Pache
2025-05-15  3:22 ` [PATCH v7 02/12] introduce khugepaged_collapse_single_pmd to unify khugepaged and madvise_collapse Nico Pache
2025-05-15  5:50   ` Baolin Wang
2025-05-16 11:59     ` Nico Pache
2025-05-16 17:12   ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-07-02  0:00     ` Nico Pache
2025-05-15  3:22 ` [PATCH v7 03/12] khugepaged: generalize hugepage_vma_revalidate for mTHP support Nico Pache
2025-05-16 17:14   ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-06-29  6:52     ` Nico Pache
2025-05-23  6:55   ` Baolin Wang
2025-05-28  6:57     ` Dev Jain
2025-05-29  4:00     ` Nico Pache
2025-05-30  3:02       ` Baolin Wang
2025-05-15  3:22 ` [PATCH v7 04/12] khugepaged: generalize alloc_charge_folio() Nico Pache
2025-05-15  3:22 ` [PATCH v7 05/12] khugepaged: generalize __collapse_huge_page_* for mTHP support Nico Pache
2025-05-15  3:22 ` [PATCH v7 06/12] khugepaged: introduce khugepaged_scan_bitmap " Nico Pache
2025-05-16  3:20   ` Baolin Wang
2025-05-17  6:47     ` Nico Pache
2025-05-18  3:04       ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-05-20 10:09       ` Baolin Wang
2025-05-20 10:26         ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-21  1:03           ` Baolin Wang
2025-05-21 10:23         ` Nico Pache
2025-05-22  9:39           ` Baolin Wang
2025-05-28  9:26             ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-28 14:04               ` Baolin Wang
2025-05-29  4:02                 ` Nico Pache
2025-05-29  8:27                   ` Baolin Wang
2025-05-15  3:22 ` [PATCH v7 07/12] khugepaged: add " Nico Pache
2025-06-07  6:23   ` Dev Jain
2025-06-07 12:55     ` Nico Pache
2025-06-07 13:03     ` Nico Pache
2025-06-07 14:31       ` Dev Jain
2025-06-07 14:42         ` Dev Jain [this message]
2025-05-15  3:22 ` [PATCH v7 08/12] khugepaged: skip collapsing mTHP to smaller orders Nico Pache
2025-05-15  3:22 ` [PATCH v7 09/12] khugepaged: avoid unnecessary mTHP collapse attempts Nico Pache
2025-05-15  3:22 ` [PATCH v7 10/12] khugepaged: improve tracepoints for mTHP orders Nico Pache
2025-05-15  3:22 ` [PATCH v7 11/12] khugepaged: add per-order mTHP khugepaged stats Nico Pache
2025-05-15  3:22 ` [PATCH v7 12/12] Documentation: mm: update the admin guide for mTHP collapse Nico Pache
2025-05-15  4:40   ` Randy Dunlap
2025-06-07  6:44   ` Dev Jain
2025-06-07 12:57     ` Nico Pache
2025-06-07 14:34       ` Dev Jain
2025-06-08 19:50         ` Nico Pache
2025-06-09  3:06           ` Baolin Wang
2025-06-09  5:26             ` Dev Jain
2025-06-09  6:39               ` Baolin Wang
2025-06-09  5:56             ` Nico Pache
2025-05-28 12:31 ` [PATCH 1/2] mm: khugepaged: allow khugepaged to check all anonymous mTHP orders Baolin Wang
2025-05-28 12:31   ` [PATCH 2/2] mm: khugepaged: kick khugepaged for enabling none-PMD-sized mTHPs Baolin Wang
2025-05-28 12:39 ` [PATCH v7 00/12] khugepaged: mTHP support Baolin Wang
2025-05-29  3:52   ` Nico Pache
2025-06-16  3:51 ` Dev Jain
2025-06-16 15:51   ` Nico Pache
2025-06-16 16:35     ` Dev Jain

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