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From: Sohil Mehta <sohil.mehta@intel.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCHv9 04/16] x86/cpu: Defer CR pinning setup until core initcall
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2025 21:43:10 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1c42680f-c962-4a75-998f-031008dd8343@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6e768f25-3a1c-48b9-bc53-56877a556a83@intel.com>

On 7/31/2025 5:01 PM, Dave Hansen wrote:
> 
> 'cr4_pinned_bits' should be set by the boot CPU. Secondary CPUs should
> also read 'cr4_pinned_bits' when setting up their own cr4's,
> unconditionally, independent of 'cr_pinning'.
> 
> The thing I think we should change is the pinning _enforcement_. The
> easiest way to do that is to remove the static_branch_likely() in
> cr4_init() and then delay flipping the static branch until just before
> userspace starts.
> 

Based on the current implementation and some git history [1], it seems
that cr_pinning is expected to catch 2 types of issues.

One is a malicious user trying to change the CR registers from
userspace. But, another scenario is a regular caller to
native_write_cr4() *mistakenly* clearing a pinned bit.

[1]:
https://lore.kernel.org/all/alpine.DEB.2.21.1906141646320.1722@nanos.tec.linutronix.de/

Could deferring enforcement lead to a scenario where we end up with
different CR4 values on different CPUs? Maybe I am misinterpreting this
and protecting against in-kernel errors is not a goal.

In general, you want to delay the CR pinning enforcement until
absolutely needed. I am curious about the motivation. I understand we
should avoid doing it at arbitrary points in the boot. But,
arch_cpu_finalize_init() and early_initcall() seem to be decent
mileposts to me.

Are you anticipating that we would need to move setup_cr_pinning() again
when another user similar to EFI shows up?
> Basically, split up the:
> 
> static void __init setup_cr_pinning(void)
> {
>     cr4_pinned_bits = this_cpu_read(cpu_tlbstate.cr4) & cr4_pinned_mask;
>     static_key_enable(&cr_pinning.key);
> }
> 
> code into its two logical pieces:
> 
>  1. Populate 'cr4_pinned_bits' from the boot CPU so the secondaries can
>     use it
>  2. Enable the static key so pinning enforcement is enabled




  reply	other threads:[~2025-08-01  4:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20250707080317.3791624-1-kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>
     [not found] ` <20250707080317.3791624-6-kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>
2025-07-09  1:27   ` [PATCHv9 05/16] efi: Disable LASS around set_virtual_address_map() EFI call Sohil Mehta
     [not found] ` <20250707080317.3791624-12-kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>
2025-07-09  2:40   ` [PATCHv9 11/16] x86/traps: Communicate a LASS violation in #GP message Sohil Mehta
2025-07-09  9:31     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-07-09  9:36       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-07-09  9:51         ` Kirill A. Shutemov
     [not found] ` <20250707080317.3791624-13-kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>
2025-07-09  4:59   ` [PATCHv9 12/16] x86/traps: Generalize #GP address decode and hint code Sohil Mehta
     [not found] ` <20250707080317.3791624-14-kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>
2025-07-09  5:12   ` [PATCHv9 13/16] x86/traps: Handle LASS thrown #SS Sohil Mehta
2025-07-09 10:38     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-07-11  1:22       ` Sohil Mehta
2025-07-11  1:23   ` Sohil Mehta
     [not found] ` <20250707080317.3791624-17-kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>
2025-07-09  5:31   ` [PATCHv9 16/16] x86: Re-enable Linear Address Masking Sohil Mehta
2025-07-09 11:00     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-07-11  0:42       ` Sohil Mehta
     [not found] ` <20250707080317.3791624-3-kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>
2025-07-09  1:08   ` [PATCHv9 02/16] x86/alternatives: Disable LASS when patching kernel alternatives Sohil Mehta
2025-07-09  9:35     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-07-09 16:58   ` Dave Hansen
2025-07-25  2:35     ` Sohil Mehta
2025-07-28 19:11   ` David Laight
2025-07-28 19:28     ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-07-28 19:38       ` David Laight
2025-08-01  0:15         ` Sohil Mehta
     [not found] ` <20250707080317.3791624-5-kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>
2025-07-09  1:19   ` [PATCHv9 04/16] x86/cpu: Defer CR pinning setup until core initcall Sohil Mehta
2025-07-09  9:38     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-07-09 17:00   ` Dave Hansen
2025-07-31 23:45     ` Sohil Mehta
2025-08-01  0:01       ` Dave Hansen
2025-08-01  4:43         ` Sohil Mehta [this message]
2025-08-01 14:22           ` Dave Hansen
2025-08-02 18:51         ` Kees Cook
2025-08-04  6:55           ` H. Peter Anvin

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