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From: John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>
To: William Kucharski <william.kucharski@oracle.com>,
	Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>
Cc: Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Zenghui Yu <yuzenghui@huawei.com>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	Kefeng Wang <wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com>, Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>,
	Alistair Popple <apopple@nvidia.com>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v1] tools/mm: Add thpmaps script to dump THP usage info
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2024 15:07:45 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1cfc9b14-3e58-4366-89f5-0f4b7717008a@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E6D86830-032F-40DE-B717-026F99E35ABA@oracle.com>

On 1/5/24 03:30, William Kucharski wrote:
> Personally I like either of these:
> 
> 00000206: 0000aaaadbb20000-0000aaaadbb21000 r-xp 00000000 fe:00 00426969
>       206: 0000aaaadbb20000-0000aaaadbb21000 r-xp 00000000 fe:00 00426969

I like that second one, because that's how pids are often printed.

> 
> With a header that looks something like this; I suspect the formatting will get
> mangled in email anyway:
> 
>     PID         START             END        PROT   OFF    MJ:MN  INODE      FILE
> 00000206: 0000aaaadbb20000-0000aaaadbb21000 r-xp 00000000 fe:00 00426969

The MJ:MN is mysterious, but this looks good otherwise.

thanks,
-- 
John Hubbard
NVIDIA


> 
>      -- William Kucharski
> 
>> On Jan 5, 2024, at 01:35, Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 04/01/2024 22:48, John Hubbard wrote:
>>> On 1/3/24 02:20, Ryan Roberts wrote:
>>>> On 03/01/2024 10:09, William Kucharski wrote:
>>> ...
>>>>>> The reason is that it is also possible to invoke the tool with --cgroup instead
>>>>>> of --pid. In this case, the tool will iterate over all the pids in the
>>>>>> cgroup so
>>>>>> (when --summary is not specified) having the pid associated with each vma is
>>>>>> useful.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I could change it to conditionally output the pid only when --cgroup is
>>>>>> specified?
>>>>>
>>>>> You could, or perhaps emit a colon after the pid to delineate it, e.g.:
>>>>>
>>>>>> 000000ce: 0000aaaadbb20000-0000aaaadbb21000 r-xp 00000000 fe:0000426969
>>>>>> /root/a.out
>>>>
>>>> Yeah that sounds like the least worst option. Let's go with that.
>>>
>>> I'm trying this out and had the exact same issue with pid. I'd suggest:
>>>
>>> a) pid should always be printed in decimal, because that's what ps(1) uses
>>>     and no one expects to see it in other formats such as hex.
>>
>> right aligned with 0 or ' ' as the pad? I guess ' ' if you want it to look like
>> ps? But given pid is the first column, I think it will look weird right aligned.
>> Perhaps left aligned, followed by colon, followed by pad? Here are the 3 options:
>>
>> 00000206: 0000aaaadbb20000-0000aaaadbb21000 r-xp 00000000 fe:00 00426969
>>      206: 0000aaaadbb20000-0000aaaadbb21000 r-xp 00000000 fe:00 00426969
>> 206:      0000aaaadbb20000-0000aaaadbb21000 r-xp 00000000 fe:00 00426969
>>
>> My personal preference is the first option; right aligned with 0 pad.
>>
>>>
>>> b) In fact, perhaps a header row would help. There could be a --no-header-row
>>>     option for cases that want to feed this to other scripts, but the default
>>>     would be to include a human-friendly header.
>>
>> How about this for a header (with example first data row):
>>
>>      PID             START              END PROT      OFF MJ:MN    INODE FILE
>> 00000206: 0000aaaadbb20000-0000aaaadbb21000 r-xp 00000000 fe:00 00426969
>>
>> Personally I wouldn't bother with a --no-header option; just keep it always on.
>>
>>>
>>> c) pid should probably be suppressed if --pid is specified, but that's
>>>     less important than the other points.
>>
>> If we have the header then I think its clear what it is and I'd prefer to keep
>> the data format consistent between --pid and --cgroup. So prefer to leave pid in
>> always.
>>
>>>
>>> In a day or two I'll get a chance to run this on something that allocates
>>> lots of mTHPs, and give a closer look.
>>
>> Thanks - it would be great to get some feedback on the usefulness of the actual
>> counters! :)
>>
>> I'm considering adding an --ignore-folio-boundaries option, which would modify
>> the way the cont counters work, to only look for contiguity and alignment and
>> ignore any folio boundaries. At the moment, if you have multiple contiguous
>> folios, they don't count, because the memory doesn't all belong to the same
>> folio. I think this could be useful in some (limited) circumstances.
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> thanks,
> 
> 




  reply	other threads:[~2024-01-05 23:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-01-02 15:38 [RFC PATCH v1] tools/mm: Add thpmaps script to dump THP usage info Ryan Roberts
2024-01-03  6:44 ` Barry Song
2024-01-03  8:07   ` William Kucharski
2024-01-03  8:24     ` Ryan Roberts
2024-01-03  9:16       ` Barry Song
2024-01-03  9:35         ` Ryan Roberts
2024-01-03 10:09           ` William Kucharski
2024-01-03 10:20             ` Ryan Roberts
2024-01-04 22:48               ` John Hubbard
2024-01-05  8:35                 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-01-05 11:30                   ` William Kucharski
2024-01-05 23:07                     ` John Hubbard [this message]
2024-01-05 23:18                   ` John Hubbard
2024-01-10  8:43                     ` Ryan Roberts
2024-01-05  8:40 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-01-10  3:34 ` John Hubbard
2024-01-10  3:51   ` Barry Song
2024-01-10  4:15     ` John Hubbard
2024-01-10  8:02       ` Barry Song
2024-01-10  8:58         ` Ryan Roberts
2024-01-10  9:09           ` Barry Song
2024-01-10  9:20             ` Ryan Roberts
2024-01-10 10:23             ` Ryan Roberts
2024-01-10 10:30               ` Barry Song
2024-01-10 10:38                 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-01-10 10:42                   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-01-10 10:55                     ` Ryan Roberts
2024-01-10 11:00                       ` David Hildenbrand
2024-01-10 11:20                         ` Ryan Roberts
2024-01-10 11:24                           ` David Hildenbrand
2024-01-10 11:38                           ` Barry Song
2024-01-10 11:59                             ` Ryan Roberts
2024-01-10 12:05                               ` Barry Song
2024-01-10 12:12                                 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-01-10 15:19                                   ` Zi Yan
2024-01-10 15:27                                     ` David Hildenbrand
2024-01-10 22:14                               ` Barry Song
2024-01-11 12:25                                 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-01-11 13:18                                   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-01-11 20:21                                     ` Barry Song
2024-01-11 20:28                                       ` David Hildenbrand
2024-01-12  6:03                                         ` Barry Song
2024-01-12 10:44                                           ` Ryan Roberts
2024-01-12 10:18                                     ` Ryan Roberts
2024-01-17 15:49                                       ` David Hildenbrand
2024-01-11 20:45                                   ` Barry Song
2024-01-12 10:25                                     ` Ryan Roberts
2024-01-10 23:34                           ` Barry Song
2024-01-10 10:48                   ` Barry Song
2024-01-10 10:54                     ` David Hildenbrand
2024-01-10 10:58                       ` Ryan Roberts
2024-01-10 11:02                         ` David Hildenbrand
2024-01-10 11:07                         ` Barry Song

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