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From: Daniel Jordan <daniel.m.jordan@oracle.com>
To: Aaron Lu <aaron.lu@intel.com>, Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Huang Ying <ying.huang@intel.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	Kemi Wang <kemi.wang@intel.com>,
	Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>,
	Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>, Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 3/4] mm/rmqueue_bulk: alloc without touching individual page structure
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2018 15:16:12 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1df1e702-98bb-8785-206b-d0a44bcc0ec0@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180321150140.GA1838@intel.com>

On 03/21/2018 11:01 AM, Aaron Lu wrote:
>> I'm sorry, but I feel the added complexity here is simply too large to
>> justify the change. Especially if the motivation seems to be just the
>> microbenchmark. It would be better if this was motivated by a real
>> workload where zone lock contention was identified as the main issue,
>> and we would see the improvements on the workload. We could also e.g.
>> find out that the problem can be avoided at a different level.
> 
> One thing I'm aware of is there is some app that consumes a ton of
> memory and when it misbehaves or crashes, it takes some 10-20 minutes to
> have it exit(munmap() takes a long time to free all those consumed
> memory).
> 
> THP could help a lot, but it's beyond my understanding why they didn't
> use it.

One of our apps has the same issue with taking a long time to exit.  The 
time is in the kernel's munmap/exit path.

Also, Vlastimil, to your point about real workloads, I've seen 
zone->lock and lru_lock heavily contended in a decision support 
benchmark.  Setting the pcp list sizes artificially high with 
percpu_pagelist_fraction didn't make it go any faster, but given that 
Aaron and I have seen the contention shift to lru_lock in this case, I'm 
curious what will happen to the benchmark when both locks are no longer 
contended.  Will report back once this experiment is done.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-03-29 19:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-03-20  8:54 [RFC PATCH v2 0/4] Eliminate zone->lock contention for will-it-scale/page_fault1 and parallel free Aaron Lu
2018-03-20  8:54 ` [RFC PATCH v2 1/4] mm/page_alloc: use helper functions to add/remove a page to/from buddy Aaron Lu
2018-03-20 11:35   ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-03-20 13:50     ` Aaron Lu
2018-03-20  8:54 ` [RFC PATCH v2 2/4] mm/__free_one_page: skip merge for order-0 page unless compaction failed Aaron Lu
2018-03-20 11:45   ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-03-20 14:11     ` Aaron Lu
2018-03-21  7:53       ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-03-22 17:15       ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-03-22 18:39         ` Daniel Jordan
2018-03-22 18:50           ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-03-20 22:58   ` Figo.zhang
2018-03-21  1:59     ` Aaron Lu
2018-03-21  4:21       ` Figo.zhang
2018-03-21  4:53         ` Aaron Lu
2018-03-21  5:59           ` Figo.zhang
2018-03-21  7:42             ` Aaron Lu
2018-03-20  8:54 ` [RFC PATCH v2 3/4] mm/rmqueue_bulk: alloc without touching individual page structure Aaron Lu
2018-03-20 22:29   ` Figo.zhang
2018-03-21  1:52     ` Aaron Lu
2018-03-21 12:55   ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-03-21 15:01     ` Aaron Lu
2018-03-29 19:16       ` Daniel Jordan [this message]
2018-03-20  8:54 ` [RFC PATCH v2 4/4] mm/free_pcppages_bulk: reduce overhead of cluster operation on free path Aaron Lu
2018-03-21 17:44 ` [RFC PATCH v2 0/4] Eliminate zone->lock contention for will-it-scale/page_fault1 and parallel free Daniel Jordan
2018-03-22  1:30   ` Aaron Lu
2018-03-22 11:20     ` Daniel Jordan
2018-03-29 19:19 ` Daniel Jordan
2018-03-30  1:42   ` Aaron Lu
2018-03-30 14:27     ` Daniel Jordan

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