From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Vitaly Wool <vitaly.wool@konsulko.se>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Nhat Pham <nphamcs@gmail.com>,
Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>,
Igor Belousov <igor.b@beldev.am>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4] mm: add zblock allocator
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2025 12:52:05 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1ed925bd-897e-44b6-ad20-7d61c8c57aa8@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250416120912.GC741145@cmpxchg.org>
On 16.04.25 14:09, Johannes Weiner wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 12, 2025 at 05:42:07PM +0200, Vitaly Wool wrote:
>> zblock is a special purpose allocator for storing compressed pages.
>> It stores integer number of same size objects per its block. These
>> blocks consist of several physical pages (2**n, i. e. 1/2/4/8).
>>
>> With zblock, it is possible to densely arrange objects of various sizes
>> resulting in low internal fragmentation. Also this allocator tries to
>> fill incomplete blocks instead of adding new ones, in many cases
>> providing a compression ratio comparable to zmalloc's.
>>
>> zblock is also in most cases superior to zsmalloc with regard to
>> average performance and worst execution times, thus allowing for better
>> response time and real-time characteristics of the whole system.
>
> Is there a reason not to use this allocation scheme in zsmalloc then?
>
> I'm curious what others think, but I'm still not convinced a second
> allocator makes sense. It's maintenance overhead, a permanent struggle
> to match feature parity, and it fragments development and testing base.
>
> Not long ago several slab allocators were removed for those
> reasons. Likewise, we just deleted zbud and z3fold because they didn't
> get any attention and bitrotted, but not before years of inflicting
> pain through the zpool interface, users accidentally making very
> suboptimal choices, reporting the same bugs over and over again etc.
>
> If you discovered a better allocation scheme, that's excellent. But I
> don't see why it warrants forking the entire allocator.
Just curious, I see a review on v4 happening on something that was
nacked by two people in v2 [1].
Do these nack's still apply or were something clarified and they no
longer apply?
[1]
https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/CAKEwX=Ma9phmURz5nyJm0MQrWmXGFLFBPwr8-Cx=zbc473rx9A@mail.gmail.com/
--
Cheers,
David / dhildenb
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-04-18 10:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-04-12 15:42 [PATCH v4] mm: add zblock allocator Vitaly Wool
2025-04-12 19:25 ` Igor Belousov
2025-04-16 12:09 ` Johannes Weiner
2025-04-16 20:10 ` Vitaly
2025-04-17 14:16 ` Johannes Weiner
2025-04-18 7:43 ` Vitaly Wool
2025-04-18 10:52 ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2025-04-18 10:56 ` Vitaly Wool
2025-04-18 11:03 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-04-22 10:46 ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-04-23 19:53 ` Vitaly Wool
2025-04-30 12:27 ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-05-01 12:41 ` Vitaly Wool
2025-05-01 23:43 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-05-06 13:04 ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-06-11 17:11 ` Vitaly Wool
2025-05-01 23:49 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-05-03 8:27 ` Vitaly
2025-05-04 9:26 ` Andrew Morton
2025-07-20 2:56 ` Andrew Morton
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