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From: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
To: Ray Bryant <raybry@sgi.com>
Cc: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>, Andi Kleen <ak@muc.de>,
	Ray Bryant <raybry@austin.rr.com>, linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC 2.6.11-rc2-mm2 0/7] mm: manual page migration -- overview II
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 22:49:23 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050220214922.GA14486@wotan.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <42168FF0.30700@sgi.com>

> >Perhaps node masks would be better and teaching the kernel to handle
> >relative distances inside the masks transparently while migrating?
> >Not sure how complicated this would be to implement though.
> >
> >Supporting interleaving on the new nodes may be also useful, that would
> >need a policy argument at least too and masks.
> >
> 
> The worry I have about using node masks is that it is not as general as
> old_node,new_node mappings (or preferably, the original proposal I made
> of old_node_list, new_node_list).  One can't differentiate between the

I agree that the node arrays are better for this case.

> >>and the majority of the memory is shared, then we only need to make
> >>one system call and one page table scan.  (We just "migrate" the
> >>shared object once.) So the time to do the page table scans disappears
> >
> >
> >I don't like this because it makes it much more complicated
> >to use for user space. And you can set separate policies for
> >shared objects anyways.
> 
> Yes, but only programs that care have to use the va_start and
> va_end.  Programs who want to move everything can specify
> 0 and MAX_INT there and they are done.

I still think it's fundamentally unclean and racy. External processes
shouldn't mess with virtual addresses of other processes.

> >-Andi
> 
> But we are least at the level of agreeing that the new system
> call looks something like the following:
> 
> migrate_pages(pid, count, old_list, new_list);
> 
> right?

For the external case probably yes. For internal (process does this
on its own address space) it should be hooked into mbind() too.

-Andi
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  reply	other threads:[~2005-02-20 21:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 103+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-02-12  3:25 [RFC 2.6.11-rc2-mm2 0/7] mm: manual page migration -- overview Ray Bryant
2005-02-12  3:25 ` [RFC 2.6.11-rc2-mm2 1/7] mm: manual page migration -- cleanup 1 Ray Bryant
2005-02-12  3:25 ` [RFC 2.6.11-rc2-mm2 2/7] mm: manual page migration -- cleanup 2 Ray Bryant
2005-02-12  3:25 ` [RFC 2.6.11-rc2-mm2 3/7] mm: manual page migration -- cleanup 3 Ray Bryant
2005-02-12  3:26 ` [RFC 2.6.11-rc2-mm2 4/7] mm: manual page migration -- cleanup 4 Ray Bryant
2005-02-12  3:26 ` [RFC 2.6.11-rc2-mm2 5/7] mm: manual page migration -- cleanup 5 Ray Bryant
2005-02-12  3:26 ` [RFC 2.6.11-rc2-mm2 6/7] mm: manual page migration -- add node_map arg to try_to_migrate_pages() Ray Bryant
2005-02-12  3:26 ` [RFC 2.6.11-rc2-mm2 7/7] mm: manual page migration -- sys_page_migrate Ray Bryant
2005-02-12  8:08   ` Paul Jackson
2005-02-12 12:34   ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-02-12 14:48     ` Andi Kleen
2005-02-12 20:51       ` Paul Jackson
2005-02-12 21:04   ` Dave Hansen
2005-02-12 21:44     ` Paul Jackson
2005-02-14 13:52     ` Robin Holt
2005-02-14 18:50       ` Dave Hansen
2005-02-14 22:01         ` Robin Holt
2005-02-14 22:22           ` Dave Hansen
2005-02-15 10:50             ` Robin Holt
2005-02-15 15:38               ` Paul Jackson
2005-02-15 18:39               ` Dave Hansen
2005-02-15 18:54                 ` Ray Bryant
2005-02-15 15:49           ` Paul Jackson
2005-02-15 16:21             ` Robin Holt
2005-02-15 16:35               ` Paul Jackson
2005-02-15 18:59                 ` Robin Holt
2005-02-15 20:54                   ` Dave Hansen
2005-02-15 21:58                   ` Peter Chubb
2005-02-15 22:10                     ` Paul Jackson
2005-02-15 22:51                     ` Robin Holt
2005-02-15 23:00                       ` Paul Jackson
2005-02-15 23:21                     ` Ray Bryant
2005-02-15 23:51                       ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-02-16  0:38                         ` Ray Bryant
2005-02-16  0:44                           ` Andi Kleen
2005-02-16  0:54                             ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-02-16 10:02                               ` Andi Kleen
2005-02-16 15:21                                 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-02-16 15:49                                   ` Paul Jackson
2005-02-16 16:08                                     ` Andi Kleen
2005-02-16 16:55                                       ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-02-16 23:35                                         ` Ray Bryant
2005-02-16  0:50                           ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-02-15 15:40         ` Paul Jackson
2005-02-12 11:17 ` [RFC 2.6.11-rc2-mm2 0/7] mm: manual page migration -- overview Andi Kleen
2005-02-12 12:12   ` Robin Holt
2005-02-14 19:18     ` Andi Kleen
2005-02-15  1:02       ` Steve Longerbeam
2005-02-12 15:54   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2005-02-12 16:18     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2005-02-12 21:29     ` Andi Kleen
2005-02-14 16:38       ` Robin Holt
2005-02-14 19:15         ` Andi Kleen
2005-02-14 23:49           ` Ray Bryant
2005-02-15  3:16             ` Paul Jackson
2005-02-15  9:14               ` Ray Bryant
2005-02-15 15:21                 ` Paul Jackson
2005-02-15  0:29   ` Ray Bryant
2005-02-15 11:05     ` Robin Holt
2005-02-15 17:44       ` Ray Bryant
2005-02-15 11:53     ` Andi Kleen
2005-02-15 12:15       ` Robin Holt
2005-02-15 15:07         ` Paul Jackson
2005-02-15 15:11         ` Paul Jackson
2005-02-15 18:16       ` Ray Bryant
2005-02-15 18:24         ` Andi Kleen
2005-02-15 12:14     ` [RFC 2.6.11-rc2-mm2 0/7] mm: manual page migration -- overview II Andi Kleen
2005-02-15 18:38       ` Ray Bryant
2005-02-15 21:48         ` Andi Kleen
2005-02-15 22:37           ` Paul Jackson
2005-02-16  3:44           ` Ray Bryant
2005-02-17 23:54             ` Andi Kleen
2005-02-18  8:38               ` Ray Bryant
2005-02-18 13:02                 ` Andi Kleen
2005-02-18 16:18                   ` Paul Jackson
2005-02-18 16:20                   ` Paul Jackson
2005-02-18 16:22                   ` Paul Jackson
2005-02-18 16:25                   ` Paul Jackson
2005-02-19  1:01                   ` Ray Bryant
2005-02-20 21:49                     ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2005-02-20 22:30                       ` Paul Jackson
2005-02-20 22:35                         ` Andi Kleen
2005-02-21  1:50                           ` Paul Jackson
2005-02-21  7:39                             ` Ray Bryant
2005-02-21  7:29                           ` Ray Bryant
2005-02-21  9:57                             ` Andi Kleen
2005-02-21 12:02                               ` Paul Jackson
2005-02-21  8:42                           ` Ray Bryant
2005-02-21 12:10                             ` Andi Kleen
2005-02-21 17:12                               ` Ray Bryant
2005-02-22 18:03                                 ` Andi Kleen
2005-02-23  3:33                                   ` Ray Bryant
2005-02-22  6:40                               ` Ray Bryant
2005-02-22 18:01                                 ` Andi Kleen
2005-02-22 18:45                                   ` Ray Bryant
2005-02-22 18:49                                     ` Andi Kleen
2005-02-26 18:22                                       ` Ray Bryant
2005-02-22 22:04                                   ` Ray Bryant
2005-02-22  6:44                               ` Ray Bryant
2005-02-21  4:20                       ` Ray Bryant
2005-02-18 16:58               ` Ray Bryant
2005-02-18 17:02               ` Ray Bryant
2005-02-18 17:11               ` Ray Bryant

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