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From: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
To: Badari Pulavarty <pbadari@us.ibm.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, hugh@veritas.com,
	dvhltc@us.ibm.com, linux-mm@kvack.org, blaisorblade@yahoo.it,
	jdike@addtoit.com
Subject: differences between MADV_FREE and MADV_DONTNEED
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 14:06:49 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060116130649.GE15897@opteron.random> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <43757263.2030401@us.ibm.com>

Now that MADV_REMOVE is in, should we discuss MADV_FREE?

MADV_FREE in Solaris is destructive and only works on anonymous memory,
while MADV_DONTNEED seems to never be destructive (which I assume it
means it's a noop on anonymous memory).

Our MADV_DONTNEED is destructive on anonymous memory, while it's
non-destructive on file mappings.

Perhaps we could move the destructive anonymous part of MADV_DONTNEED to
MADV_FREE?

Or we could as well go relaxed and define MADV_FREE and MADV_DONTNEED
the same way (that still leaves the question if we risk to break apps
ported from solaris where MADV_DONTNEED is apparently always not
destructive).

I only read the docs, I don't know in practice what MADV_DONTNEED does
on solaris (does it return -EINVAL if run on anonymous memory or not?).

http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/816-5168/6mbb3hrgk?a=view

BTW, I don't know how other specifications define MADV_FREE, but besides
MADV_REMOVE I've also got the request to provide MADV_FREE in linux,
this is why I'm asking. (right now I'm telling them to use #ifdef
__linux__ #define MADV_FREE MADV_DONTNEED but that's quite an hack since
it could break if we make MADV_DONTNEED non-destructive in the future)

Thanks.

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  reply	other threads:[~2006-01-16 13:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-10-26 22:49 [RFC] madvise(MADV_TRUNCATE) Badari Pulavarty
2005-10-27  8:38 ` Andi Kleen
2005-10-27 13:17   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-10-27 15:00     ` Badari Pulavarty
2005-10-27 15:11       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-10-27 18:20         ` Andrew Morton
2005-10-27 18:35           ` Badari Pulavarty
2005-10-27 18:50             ` Andrew Morton
2005-10-27 19:40               ` Gerrit Huizenga
2005-10-27 19:56                 ` Andi Kleen
2005-10-27 23:21                   ` Darren Hart
2005-10-27 20:05               ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-10-27 20:16                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-10-28  1:42                 ` Badari Pulavarty
2005-10-28 16:33                   ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-10-27 20:22               ` Jeff Dike
2005-10-27 20:04           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-10-27 20:50             ` Andrew Morton
2005-10-27 21:37               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-10-27 22:23                 ` Andrew Morton
2005-10-27 23:05                   ` Badari Pulavarty
2005-10-27 23:16                     ` Andrew Morton
2005-10-27 23:33                       ` Peter Chubb
2005-10-28  0:22                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-10-28  0:32                     ` Andrew Morton
2005-10-28  1:10                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-10-28  1:27                       ` Badari Pulavarty
2005-10-28  2:00                         ` Andrew Morton
2005-10-27 22:32               ` Badari Pulavarty
2005-10-27 23:28             ` Peter Chubb
2005-10-27 23:49               ` Andrew Morton
2005-10-27 23:56                 ` Nathan Scott
2005-10-28  0:15                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-10-27 23:59                 ` Peter Chubb
2005-10-28  3:46 ` Jeff Dike
2005-10-28 11:03   ` Blaisorblade
2005-10-28 13:29     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-10-28 16:56       ` Blaisorblade
2005-10-28 16:16     ` Badari Pulavarty
2005-10-28 18:40       ` Blaisorblade
2005-10-28 18:56         ` Badari Pulavarty
2005-10-29  0:35         ` Badari Pulavarty
2005-10-28 16:19   ` Badari Pulavarty
2005-10-28 17:10     ` Blaisorblade
2005-10-28 18:28       ` Jeff Dike
2005-10-28 18:44         ` Blaisorblade
2005-10-28 18:42     ` Jeff Dike
2005-10-28 18:54       ` Badari Pulavarty
2005-10-29  0:03       ` Badari Pulavarty
2005-10-29  2:51         ` Jeff Dike
2005-10-31 16:34           ` Badari Pulavarty
2005-10-31 19:15           ` Badari Pulavarty
2005-10-31 19:49           ` [RFC][PATCH] madvise(MADV_TRUNCATE) Badari Pulavarty
2005-11-01  0:05             ` Jeff Dike
2005-11-02  1:15               ` [PATCH] 2.6.14 patch for supporting madvise(MADV_FREE) Badari Pulavarty
2005-11-02  1:43                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-11-02 15:49                   ` Badari Pulavarty
2005-11-02 16:12                   ` [PATCH] 2.6.14 patch for supporting madvise(MADV_REMOVE) Badari Pulavarty
2005-11-02 19:54                     ` New bug in patch and existing Linux code - race with install_page() (was: Re: [PATCH] 2.6.14 patch for supporting madvise(MADV_REMOVE)) Blaisorblade
2005-11-02 20:12                       ` Hugh Dickins
2005-11-02 20:45                         ` Hugh Dickins
2005-11-02 21:36                       ` Badari Pulavarty
2005-11-02 21:55                         ` Hugh Dickins
2005-11-02 22:02                           ` Badari Pulavarty
2005-11-12  0:25                     ` [PATCH] 2.6.14 patch for supporting madvise(MADV_REMOVE) Andrew Morton
2005-11-12  0:34                       ` Badari Pulavarty
2005-11-12  1:43                         ` Andrew Morton
2005-11-12  4:41                           ` Badari Pulavarty
2006-01-16 13:06                             ` Andrea Arcangeli [this message]
2006-01-16 16:02                               ` differences between MADV_FREE and MADV_DONTNEED Suleiman Souhlal
2006-01-16 16:28                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2006-01-16 17:03                                   ` Suleiman Souhlal
2006-01-16 17:24                                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2006-01-16 21:43                                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-01-17  0:24                                         ` Suleiman Souhlal
2006-01-17  1:04                                           ` Nicholas Miell
2006-01-17 12:43                                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-01-17 18:23                                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-01-17 22:55                                                 ` Nicholas Miell
2007-03-01 18:11                                                 ` Samuel Thibault
2006-01-17 19:06                                               ` Badari Pulavarty
2006-01-17  1:06                               ` Blaisorblade
2006-01-17  1:33                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-11-12  0:34                     ` [PATCH] 2.6.14 patch for supporting madvise(MADV_REMOVE) Andrew Morton
2005-10-28 17:55   ` [RFC] madvise(MADV_TRUNCATE) Blaisorblade
2005-10-28 21:23     ` Theodore Ts'o

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