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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>
Cc: Martin Bligh <mbligh@mbligh.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Remove unswappable anonymous pages off the LRU
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 20:02:04 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070215200204.899811b4.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0702151945090.1696@schroedinger.engr.sgi.com>

On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 19:50:45 -0800 (PST) Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 15 Feb 2007, Andrew Morton wrote:
> 
> > > Maybe we could somehow splite up page->flags into 4 separate bytes?
> > > Updating one byte would not endanger the other bytes in the other 
> > > sets?
> > 
> > yipes.  I'm not sure that'd work?
> 
> Are all arches able to do atomic ops on bytes?

I think they are, but you only wanted three bits.  I don't think we'll be
able to convert eight bits into a 256-value scalar efficiently.

> > compare-and-swap-in-a-loop could be used, I guess.  With the obvious problem..
> 
> Yucks. There seems to be no easy solution.
>  
> > I do think that those two swsusp flags are low-hanging-fruit.  It'd be
> > trivial to vmalloc a bitmap or use a radix-tree-holding-longs, but I have a
> > vague feeling that there were subtle issues with that.  Still, Something
> > Needs To Be Done.
> 
> I tinkered with some similar radical ideas lately. Maybe a bit vector
> could be used instead? For 1G of memory we would need 
> 
> 2^(30 - PAGE_SHIFT / 8 = 2^(30-12-3) = 2^15 = 32k bytes of a bitmap.
> 
> Seems to be reasonable?
> 

32k per bit per gig, yes.  Better for large PAGE_SIZE.  More cachemisses.

But will it come unstuck for machines which have a super-sparse pfn space?

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  reply	other threads:[~2007-02-16  4:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-02-15 21:05 [RFC] Remove unswappable anonymous pages off the LRU Christoph Lameter
2007-02-15 22:31 ` Rik van Riel
2007-02-15 22:41   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-02-15 22:50     ` Rik van Riel
2007-02-15 22:53       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-02-15 23:19       ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-15 23:20       ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-02-16  0:15         ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-16  1:13 ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-16  1:24   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-02-16  1:40   ` Martin Bligh
2007-02-16  1:49     ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-16  2:21       ` Martin Bligh
2007-02-16  2:34       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-02-16  2:48         ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-16  2:50           ` Christoph Lameter
2007-02-16  3:18             ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-16  3:36               ` Christoph Lameter
2007-02-16  3:42                 ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-16  3:50                   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-02-16  4:02                     ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2007-02-16  4:07                       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-02-16  4:03                     ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-16  4:14                     ` Rik van Riel
2007-02-16  4:15                       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-02-16  4:57                         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-02-16  5:16                           ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-16  5:25                             ` Christoph Lameter
2007-02-16  5:41                               ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-16  5:19                           ` Christoph Lameter
2007-02-16  4:24                       ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-16  8:15           ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-02-16  9:11             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-02-16  9:19               ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-02-16 10:10             ` Christoph Lameter
2007-02-16 10:17               ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-02-16 11:04                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-02-16  2:16     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-02-16  3:17       ` Martin Bligh
2007-02-16  3:29         ` Christoph Lameter
2007-02-16  8:10     ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-02-16  2:15   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-02-16  2:55   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-02-16  5:02     ` Christoph Lameter

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