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From: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
To: Bill Irwin <bill.irwin@oracle.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linux Memory Management <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	Paolo 'Blaisorblade' Giarrusso <blaisorblade@yahoo.it>
Subject: Re: [patch 4/6] mm: merge populate and nopage into fault (fixes nonlinear)
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 10:49:47 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070307094947.GE8609@wotan.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070307094420.GL18774@holomorphy.com>

On Wed, Mar 07, 2007 at 01:44:20AM -0800, Bill Irwin wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 07, 2007 at 10:28:21AM +0100, Nick Piggin wrote:
> > Depending on whether anyone wants it, and what features they want, we
> > could emulate the old syscall, and make a new restricted one which is
> > much less intrusive.
> > For example, if we can operate only on MAP_ANONYMOUS memory and specify
> > that nonlinear mappings effectively mlock the pages, then we can get
> > rid of all the objrmap and unmap_mapping_range handling, forget about
> > the writeout and msync problems...
> 
> Anonymous-only would make it a doorstop for Oracle, since its entire
> motive for using it is to window into objects larger than user virtual

Uh, duh yes I don't mean MAP_ANONYMOUS, I was just thinking of the shmem
inode that sits behind MAP_ANONYMOUS|MAP_SHARED. Of course if you don't
have a file descriptor to get a pgoff, then remap_file_pages is a doorstop
for everyone ;)

> address spaces (this likely also applies to UML, though they should
> really chime in to confirm). Restrictions to tmpfs and/or ramfs would
> likely be liveable, though I suspect some things might want to do it to
> shm segments (I'll ask about that one). There's definitely no need for a
> persistent backing store for the object to be remapped in Oracle's case,
> in any event. It's largely the in-core destination and source of IO, not
> something saved on-disk itself.

Yeah, tmpfs/shm segs are what I was thinking about. If UML can live with
that as well, then I think it might be a good option.

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  reply	other threads:[~2007-03-07  9:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 99+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-02-21  4:49 [patch 0/6] fault vs truncate/invalidate race fix Nick Piggin
2007-02-21  4:49 ` [patch 1/6] mm: debug check for the fault vs invalidate race Nick Piggin
2007-02-21  4:49 ` [patch 2/6] mm: simplify filemap_nopage Nick Piggin
2007-02-21  4:50 ` [patch 3/6] mm: fix fault vs invalidate race for linear mappings Nick Piggin
2007-03-07  6:36   ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-07  6:57     ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07  7:08       ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-07  7:25         ` Nick Piggin
2007-02-21  4:50 ` [patch 4/6] mm: merge populate and nopage into fault (fixes nonlinear) Nick Piggin
2007-03-07  6:51   ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-07  7:08     ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07  8:19       ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07  8:27         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-07  8:35           ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-07  8:53             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-07  9:28               ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07  9:44                 ` Bill Irwin
2007-03-07  9:49                   ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2007-03-07 10:02                     ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-12 23:01                       ` Blaisorblade
2007-03-13  1:19                         ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-17 12:17                           ` Blaisorblade
2007-03-18  2:50                             ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-18 13:09                               ` Jeff Dike
2007-03-19 12:04                               ` Bill Irwin
2007-03-19 20:44                               ` Blaisorblade
2007-03-20  6:00                                 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-21 19:45                                   ` Blaisorblade
2007-03-08 12:39                   ` Blaisorblade
2007-03-07  9:29             ` Bill Irwin
2007-03-07  9:39               ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-07 10:09                 ` Bill Irwin
2007-03-07  8:38           ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-07  8:47             ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-07  8:51               ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-07  9:07                 ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-07  9:18                   ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07  9:26                     ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-07  9:28                       ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-07  9:38                       ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07  9:25                   ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-07  9:32                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-07  9:45                     ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 10:04                       ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 10:06                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-07 10:13                           ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-07 10:21                             ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 10:24                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-07 10:38                                 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 10:47                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-07 11:00                                     ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 11:48                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-07 12:17                                         ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 12:41                                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-07 13:08                                             ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 13:19                                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-07 13:36                                                 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 13:52                                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-07 13:56                                                     ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-07 14:34                                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-07 15:01                                                       ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 16:58                                                         ` [RFC][PATCH] mm: fix page_mkclean() vs non-linear vmas Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-07 18:00                                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-07 18:12                                                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-07 18:24                                                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-08 11:21                                                           ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-08 11:37                                                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-08 11:48                                                               ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-08 12:11                                                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-08 12:19                                                                   ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-08 12:25                                                                     ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-08 11:58                                                             ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-08 12:09                                                               ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-07 15:10                                                     ` [patch 4/6] mm: merge populate and nopage into fault (fixes nonlinear) Jeff Dike
2007-03-07 13:53                                                   ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-07 14:50                                                     ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 12:22                                       ` Bill Irwin
2007-03-07 12:36                                         ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 10:30                             ` [rfc][patch 7/6] mm: merge page_mkwrite Nick Piggin
2007-03-07  8:59           ` [patch 4/6] mm: merge populate and nopage into fault (fixes nonlinear) Nick Piggin
2007-03-07  9:11             ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07  9:22             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-07  9:32               ` Bill Irwin
2007-03-07  9:35                 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-07  9:50                   ` Bill Irwin
2007-03-07  9:52               ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07  7:19     ` Bill Irwin
2007-03-07 10:05     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-03-07 10:17       ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 10:46         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-02-21  4:50 ` [patch 5/6] mm: merge nopfn into fault Nick Piggin
2007-02-21  5:13   ` Nick Piggin
2007-02-21  4:50 ` [patch 6/6] mm: remove legacy cruft Nick Piggin
2007-02-27  4:36 ` [patch 0/6] fault vs truncate/invalidate race fix Dave Airlie
2007-02-27  5:32   ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-27  6:26     ` Dave Airlie
2007-02-27  6:54       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-03-18 23:13         ` Dave Airlie
2007-02-27  8:50     ` Nick Piggin

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