From: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
To: Blaisorblade <blaisorblade@yahoo.it>
Cc: Bill Irwin <bill.irwin@oracle.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Linux Memory Management <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
Subject: Re: [patch 4/6] mm: merge populate and nopage into fault (fixes nonlinear)
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 03:50:10 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070318025010.GA1671@wotan.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200703171317.01074.blaisorblade@yahoo.it>
On Sat, Mar 17, 2007 at 01:17:00PM +0100, Blaisorblade wrote:
> On Tuesday 13 March 2007 02:19, Nick Piggin wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 12:01:13AM +0100, Blaisorblade wrote:
> > > On Wednesday 07 March 2007 11:02, Nick Piggin wrote:
> > > > > Yeah, tmpfs/shm segs are what I was thinking about. If UML can live
> > > > > with that as well, then I think it might be a good option.
> > > >
> > > > Oh, hmm.... if you can truncate these things then you still need to
> > > > force unmap so you still need i_mmap_nonlinear.
> > >
> > > Well, we don't need truncate(), but MADV_REMOVE for memory hotunplug,
> > > which is way similar I guess.
> > >
> > > About the restriction to tmpfs, I have just discovered
> > > '[PATCH] mm: tracking shared dirty pages' (commit
> > > d08b3851da41d0ee60851f2c75b118e1f7a5fc89), which already partially
> > > conflicts with remap_file_pages for file-based mmaps (and that's fully
> > > fine, for now).
> > >
> > > Even if UML does not need it, till now if there is a VMA protection and a
> > > page hasn't been remapped with remap_file_pages, the VMA protection is
> > > used (just because it makes sense).
> > >
> > > However, it is only used when the PTE is first created - we can never
> > > change protections on a VMA - so it vma_wants_writenotify() is true (on
> > > all file-based and on no shmfs based mapping, right?), and we
> > > write-protect the VMA, it will always be write-protected.
> >
> > Yes, I believe that is the case, however I wonder if that is going to be
> > a problem for you to distinguish between write faults for clean writable
> > ptes, and write faults for readonly ptes?
> I wouldn't be able to distinguish them, but am I going to get write faults for
> clean ptes when vma_wants_writenotify() is false (as seems to be for tmpfs)?
> I guess not.
>
> For tmpfs pages, clean writable PTEs are mapped as writable so they won't give
> any problem, since vma_wants_writenotify() is false for tmpfs. Correct?
Yes, that should be the case. So would this mean that nonlinear protections
don't work on regular files? I guess that's OK if Oracle and UML both use
tmpfs/shm?
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Thread overview: 99+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-02-21 4:49 [patch 0/6] fault vs truncate/invalidate race fix Nick Piggin
2007-02-21 4:49 ` [patch 1/6] mm: debug check for the fault vs invalidate race Nick Piggin
2007-02-21 4:49 ` [patch 2/6] mm: simplify filemap_nopage Nick Piggin
2007-02-21 4:50 ` [patch 3/6] mm: fix fault vs invalidate race for linear mappings Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 6:36 ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-07 6:57 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 7:08 ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-07 7:25 ` Nick Piggin
2007-02-21 4:50 ` [patch 4/6] mm: merge populate and nopage into fault (fixes nonlinear) Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 6:51 ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-07 7:08 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 8:19 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 8:27 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-07 8:35 ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-07 8:53 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-07 9:28 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 9:44 ` Bill Irwin
2007-03-07 9:49 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 10:02 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-12 23:01 ` Blaisorblade
2007-03-13 1:19 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-17 12:17 ` Blaisorblade
2007-03-18 2:50 ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2007-03-18 13:09 ` Jeff Dike
2007-03-19 12:04 ` Bill Irwin
2007-03-19 20:44 ` Blaisorblade
2007-03-20 6:00 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-21 19:45 ` Blaisorblade
2007-03-08 12:39 ` Blaisorblade
2007-03-07 9:29 ` Bill Irwin
2007-03-07 9:39 ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-07 10:09 ` Bill Irwin
2007-03-07 8:38 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-07 8:47 ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-07 8:51 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-07 9:07 ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-07 9:18 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 9:26 ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-07 9:28 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-07 9:38 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 9:25 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-07 9:32 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-07 9:45 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 10:04 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 10:06 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-07 10:13 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-07 10:21 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 10:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-07 10:38 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 10:47 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-07 11:00 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 11:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-07 12:17 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 12:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-07 13:08 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 13:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-07 13:36 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 13:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-07 13:56 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-07 14:34 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-07 15:01 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 16:58 ` [RFC][PATCH] mm: fix page_mkclean() vs non-linear vmas Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-07 18:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-07 18:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-07 18:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-08 11:21 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-08 11:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-08 11:48 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-08 12:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-08 12:19 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-08 12:25 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-08 11:58 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-08 12:09 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-07 15:10 ` [patch 4/6] mm: merge populate and nopage into fault (fixes nonlinear) Jeff Dike
2007-03-07 13:53 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-07 14:50 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 12:22 ` Bill Irwin
2007-03-07 12:36 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 10:30 ` [rfc][patch 7/6] mm: merge page_mkwrite Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 8:59 ` [patch 4/6] mm: merge populate and nopage into fault (fixes nonlinear) Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 9:11 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 9:22 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-07 9:32 ` Bill Irwin
2007-03-07 9:35 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-07 9:50 ` Bill Irwin
2007-03-07 9:52 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 7:19 ` Bill Irwin
2007-03-07 10:05 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-03-07 10:17 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 10:46 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-02-21 4:50 ` [patch 5/6] mm: merge nopfn into fault Nick Piggin
2007-02-21 5:13 ` Nick Piggin
2007-02-21 4:50 ` [patch 6/6] mm: remove legacy cruft Nick Piggin
2007-02-27 4:36 ` [patch 0/6] fault vs truncate/invalidate race fix Dave Airlie
2007-02-27 5:32 ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-27 6:26 ` Dave Airlie
2007-02-27 6:54 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-03-18 23:13 ` Dave Airlie
2007-02-27 8:50 ` Nick Piggin
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