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From: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
To: Blaisorblade <blaisorblade@yahoo.it>
Cc: Bill Irwin <bill.irwin@oracle.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linux Memory Management <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
Subject: Re: [patch 4/6] mm: merge populate and nopage into fault (fixes nonlinear)
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 03:50:10 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070318025010.GA1671@wotan.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200703171317.01074.blaisorblade@yahoo.it>

On Sat, Mar 17, 2007 at 01:17:00PM +0100, Blaisorblade wrote:
> On Tuesday 13 March 2007 02:19, Nick Piggin wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 12:01:13AM +0100, Blaisorblade wrote:
> > > On Wednesday 07 March 2007 11:02, Nick Piggin wrote:
> > > > > Yeah, tmpfs/shm segs are what I was thinking about. If UML can live
> > > > > with that as well, then I think it might be a good option.
> > > >
> > > > Oh, hmm.... if you can truncate these things then you still need to
> > > > force unmap so you still need i_mmap_nonlinear.
> > >
> > > Well, we don't need truncate(), but MADV_REMOVE for memory hotunplug,
> > > which is way similar I guess.
> > >
> > > About the restriction to tmpfs, I have just discovered
> > > '[PATCH] mm: tracking shared dirty pages' (commit
> > > d08b3851da41d0ee60851f2c75b118e1f7a5fc89), which already partially
> > > conflicts with remap_file_pages for file-based mmaps (and that's fully
> > > fine, for now).
> > >
> > > Even if UML does not need it, till now if there is a VMA protection and a
> > > page hasn't been remapped with remap_file_pages, the VMA protection is
> > > used (just because it makes sense).
> > >
> > > However, it is only used when the PTE is first created - we can never
> > > change protections on a VMA  - so it vma_wants_writenotify() is true (on
> > > all file-based and on no shmfs based mapping, right?), and we
> > > write-protect the VMA, it will always be write-protected.
> >
> > Yes, I believe that is the case, however I wonder if that is going to be
> > a problem for you to distinguish between write faults for clean writable
> > ptes, and write faults for readonly ptes?
> I wouldn't be able to distinguish them, but am I going to get write faults for 
> clean ptes when vma_wants_writenotify() is false (as seems to be for tmpfs)? 
> I guess not.
> 
> For tmpfs pages, clean writable PTEs are mapped as writable so they won't give 
> any problem, since vma_wants_writenotify() is false for tmpfs. Correct?

Yes, that should be the case. So would this mean that nonlinear protections
don't work on regular files? I guess that's OK if Oracle and UML both use
tmpfs/shm?

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  reply	other threads:[~2007-03-18  2:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 99+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-02-21  4:49 [patch 0/6] fault vs truncate/invalidate race fix Nick Piggin
2007-02-21  4:49 ` [patch 1/6] mm: debug check for the fault vs invalidate race Nick Piggin
2007-02-21  4:49 ` [patch 2/6] mm: simplify filemap_nopage Nick Piggin
2007-02-21  4:50 ` [patch 3/6] mm: fix fault vs invalidate race for linear mappings Nick Piggin
2007-03-07  6:36   ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-07  6:57     ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07  7:08       ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-07  7:25         ` Nick Piggin
2007-02-21  4:50 ` [patch 4/6] mm: merge populate and nopage into fault (fixes nonlinear) Nick Piggin
2007-03-07  6:51   ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-07  7:08     ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07  8:19       ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07  8:27         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-07  8:35           ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-07  8:53             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-07  9:28               ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07  9:44                 ` Bill Irwin
2007-03-07  9:49                   ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 10:02                     ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-12 23:01                       ` Blaisorblade
2007-03-13  1:19                         ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-17 12:17                           ` Blaisorblade
2007-03-18  2:50                             ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2007-03-18 13:09                               ` Jeff Dike
2007-03-19 12:04                               ` Bill Irwin
2007-03-19 20:44                               ` Blaisorblade
2007-03-20  6:00                                 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-21 19:45                                   ` Blaisorblade
2007-03-08 12:39                   ` Blaisorblade
2007-03-07  9:29             ` Bill Irwin
2007-03-07  9:39               ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-07 10:09                 ` Bill Irwin
2007-03-07  8:38           ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-07  8:47             ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-07  8:51               ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-07  9:07                 ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-07  9:18                   ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07  9:26                     ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-07  9:28                       ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-07  9:38                       ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07  9:25                   ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-07  9:32                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-07  9:45                     ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 10:04                       ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 10:06                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-07 10:13                           ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-07 10:21                             ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 10:24                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-07 10:38                                 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 10:47                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-07 11:00                                     ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 11:48                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-07 12:17                                         ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 12:41                                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-07 13:08                                             ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 13:19                                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-07 13:36                                                 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 13:52                                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-07 13:56                                                     ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-07 14:34                                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-07 15:01                                                       ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 16:58                                                         ` [RFC][PATCH] mm: fix page_mkclean() vs non-linear vmas Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-07 18:00                                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-07 18:12                                                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-07 18:24                                                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-08 11:21                                                           ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-08 11:37                                                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-08 11:48                                                               ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-08 12:11                                                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-08 12:19                                                                   ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-08 12:25                                                                     ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-08 11:58                                                             ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-08 12:09                                                               ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-07 15:10                                                     ` [patch 4/6] mm: merge populate and nopage into fault (fixes nonlinear) Jeff Dike
2007-03-07 13:53                                                   ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-07 14:50                                                     ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 12:22                                       ` Bill Irwin
2007-03-07 12:36                                         ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 10:30                             ` [rfc][patch 7/6] mm: merge page_mkwrite Nick Piggin
2007-03-07  8:59           ` [patch 4/6] mm: merge populate and nopage into fault (fixes nonlinear) Nick Piggin
2007-03-07  9:11             ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07  9:22             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-07  9:32               ` Bill Irwin
2007-03-07  9:35                 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-07  9:50                   ` Bill Irwin
2007-03-07  9:52               ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07  7:19     ` Bill Irwin
2007-03-07 10:05     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-03-07 10:17       ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 10:46         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-02-21  4:50 ` [patch 5/6] mm: merge nopfn into fault Nick Piggin
2007-02-21  5:13   ` Nick Piggin
2007-02-21  4:50 ` [patch 6/6] mm: remove legacy cruft Nick Piggin
2007-02-27  4:36 ` [patch 0/6] fault vs truncate/invalidate race fix Dave Airlie
2007-02-27  5:32   ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-27  6:26     ` Dave Airlie
2007-02-27  6:54       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-03-18 23:13         ` Dave Airlie
2007-02-27  8:50     ` Nick Piggin

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