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From: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
To: Blaisorblade <blaisorblade@yahoo.it>
Cc: Bill Irwin <bill.irwin@oracle.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linux Memory Management <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
Subject: Re: [patch 4/6] mm: merge populate and nopage into fault (fixes nonlinear)
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 07:00:17 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070320060017.GA21978@wotan.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200703192144.28969.blaisorblade@yahoo.it>

On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 09:44:28PM +0100, Blaisorblade wrote:
> On Sunday 18 March 2007 03:50, Nick Piggin wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Yes, I believe that is the case, however I wonder if that is going to
> > > > be a problem for you to distinguish between write faults for clean
> > > > writable ptes, and write faults for readonly ptes?
> > >
> > > I wouldn't be able to distinguish them, but am I going to get write
> > > faults for clean ptes when vma_wants_writenotify() is false (as seems to
> > > be for tmpfs)? I guess not.
> > >
> > > For tmpfs pages, clean writable PTEs are mapped as writable so they won't
> > > give any problem, since vma_wants_writenotify() is false for tmpfs.
> > > Correct?
> >
> > Yes, that should be the case. So would this mean that nonlinear protections
> > don't work on regular files?
> 
> They still work in most cases (including for UML), but if the initial mmap() 
> specified PROT_WRITE, that is ignored, for pages which are not remapped via 
> remap_file_pages(). UML uses PROT_NONE for the initial mmap, so that's no 
> problem.

But how are you going to distinguish a write fault on a readonly pte for
dirty page accounting vs a read-only nonlinear protection?

You can't store any more data in a present pte AFAIK, so you'd have to
have some out of band data. At which point, you may as well just forget
about vma_wants_writenotify vmas, considering that everybody is using
shmem/ramfs.

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  reply	other threads:[~2007-03-20  6:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 99+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-02-21  4:49 [patch 0/6] fault vs truncate/invalidate race fix Nick Piggin
2007-02-21  4:49 ` [patch 1/6] mm: debug check for the fault vs invalidate race Nick Piggin
2007-02-21  4:49 ` [patch 2/6] mm: simplify filemap_nopage Nick Piggin
2007-02-21  4:50 ` [patch 3/6] mm: fix fault vs invalidate race for linear mappings Nick Piggin
2007-03-07  6:36   ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-07  6:57     ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07  7:08       ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-07  7:25         ` Nick Piggin
2007-02-21  4:50 ` [patch 4/6] mm: merge populate and nopage into fault (fixes nonlinear) Nick Piggin
2007-03-07  6:51   ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-07  7:08     ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07  8:19       ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07  8:27         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-07  8:35           ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-07  8:53             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-07  9:28               ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07  9:44                 ` Bill Irwin
2007-03-07  9:49                   ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 10:02                     ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-12 23:01                       ` Blaisorblade
2007-03-13  1:19                         ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-17 12:17                           ` Blaisorblade
2007-03-18  2:50                             ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-18 13:09                               ` Jeff Dike
2007-03-19 12:04                               ` Bill Irwin
2007-03-19 20:44                               ` Blaisorblade
2007-03-20  6:00                                 ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2007-03-21 19:45                                   ` Blaisorblade
2007-03-08 12:39                   ` Blaisorblade
2007-03-07  9:29             ` Bill Irwin
2007-03-07  9:39               ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-07 10:09                 ` Bill Irwin
2007-03-07  8:38           ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-07  8:47             ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-07  8:51               ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-07  9:07                 ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-07  9:18                   ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07  9:26                     ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-07  9:28                       ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-07  9:38                       ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07  9:25                   ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-07  9:32                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-07  9:45                     ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 10:04                       ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 10:06                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-07 10:13                           ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-07 10:21                             ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 10:24                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-07 10:38                                 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 10:47                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-07 11:00                                     ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 11:48                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-07 12:17                                         ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 12:41                                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-07 13:08                                             ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 13:19                                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-07 13:36                                                 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 13:52                                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-07 13:56                                                     ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-07 14:34                                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-07 15:01                                                       ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 16:58                                                         ` [RFC][PATCH] mm: fix page_mkclean() vs non-linear vmas Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-07 18:00                                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-07 18:12                                                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-07 18:24                                                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-08 11:21                                                           ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-08 11:37                                                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-08 11:48                                                               ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-08 12:11                                                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-08 12:19                                                                   ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-08 12:25                                                                     ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-08 11:58                                                             ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-08 12:09                                                               ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-07 15:10                                                     ` [patch 4/6] mm: merge populate and nopage into fault (fixes nonlinear) Jeff Dike
2007-03-07 13:53                                                   ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-07 14:50                                                     ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 12:22                                       ` Bill Irwin
2007-03-07 12:36                                         ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 10:30                             ` [rfc][patch 7/6] mm: merge page_mkwrite Nick Piggin
2007-03-07  8:59           ` [patch 4/6] mm: merge populate and nopage into fault (fixes nonlinear) Nick Piggin
2007-03-07  9:11             ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07  9:22             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-07  9:32               ` Bill Irwin
2007-03-07  9:35                 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-07  9:50                   ` Bill Irwin
2007-03-07  9:52               ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07  7:19     ` Bill Irwin
2007-03-07 10:05     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-03-07 10:17       ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 10:46         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-02-21  4:50 ` [patch 5/6] mm: merge nopfn into fault Nick Piggin
2007-02-21  5:13   ` Nick Piggin
2007-02-21  4:50 ` [patch 6/6] mm: remove legacy cruft Nick Piggin
2007-02-27  4:36 ` [patch 0/6] fault vs truncate/invalidate race fix Dave Airlie
2007-02-27  5:32   ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-27  6:26     ` Dave Airlie
2007-02-27  6:54       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-03-18 23:13         ` Dave Airlie
2007-02-27  8:50     ` Nick Piggin

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