From: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
To: Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, dkegel@google.com,
David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
Daniel Phillips <phillips@google.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/3] Recursive reclaim (on __PF_MEMALLOC)
Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 02:32:12 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070821003212.GC8414@wotan.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0708201210440.29092@schroedinger.engr.sgi.com>
On Mon, Aug 20, 2007 at 12:15:01PM -0700, Christoph Lameter wrote:
> On Mon, 20 Aug 2007, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>
> > > > <> What Christoph is proposing is doing recursive reclaim and not
> > > > initiating writeout. This will only work _IFF_ there are clean pages
> > > > about. Which in the general case need not be true (memory might be
> > > > packed with anonymous pages - consider an MPI cluster doing computation
> > > > stuff). So this gets us a workload dependant solution - which IMHO is
> > > > bad!
> > >
> > > Although you will quite likely have at least a couple of MB worth of
> > > clean program text. The important part of recursive reclaim is that it
> > > doesn't so easily allow reclaim to blow all memory reserves (including
> > > interrupt context). Sure you still have theoretical deadlocks, but if
> > > I understand correctly, they are going to be lessened. I would be
> > > really interested to see if even just these recursive reclaim patches
> > > eliminate the problem in practice.
> >
> > were we much bothered by the buffered write deadlock? - why accept a
> > known deadlock if a solid solution is quite attainable?
>
> Buffered write deadlock? How does that exactly occur? Memory allocation in
> the writeout path while we hold locks?
Different topic. Peter was talking about the write(2) write deadlock
where we take a page fault while holding a page lock (which leads to
lock inversion, taking the lock twice etc.)
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Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-08-14 14:21 [RFC 0/3] Recursive reclaim (on __PF_MEMALLOC) Christoph Lameter
2007-08-14 14:21 ` [RFC 1/3] Allow reclaim via __GFP_NOMEMALLOC reclaim Christoph Lameter
2007-08-14 14:21 ` [RFC 2/3] Use NOMEMALLOC reclaim to allow reclaim if PF_MEMALLOC is set Christoph Lameter
2007-08-14 14:21 ` [RFC 3/3] Test code for PF_MEMALLOC reclaim Christoph Lameter
2007-08-14 14:36 ` [RFC 0/3] Recursive reclaim (on __PF_MEMALLOC) Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-14 15:29 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-14 19:32 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-14 19:41 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-15 12:22 ` Nick Piggin
2007-08-15 13:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-15 14:15 ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-15 13:55 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-15 14:34 ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-15 20:32 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-15 20:29 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-16 3:29 ` Nick Piggin
2007-08-16 20:27 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-20 3:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-20 19:15 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-21 0:32 ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2007-08-21 0:28 ` Nick Piggin
2007-08-21 15:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-23 3:02 ` Nick Piggin
2007-09-12 22:39 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-05 9:20 ` Daniel Phillips
2007-09-05 10:42 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-05 11:42 ` Nick Piggin
2007-09-05 12:14 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-05 12:19 ` Nick Piggin
2007-09-10 19:29 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-10 19:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-10 19:41 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-10 19:55 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-10 20:17 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-10 20:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-11 7:41 ` Nick Piggin
2007-09-12 10:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-12 22:47 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-13 8:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-13 18:32 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-13 19:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-05 16:16 ` Daniel Phillips
2007-09-08 5:12 ` Mike Snitzer
2007-09-18 0:28 ` Daniel Phillips
2007-09-18 3:27 ` Mike Snitzer
[not found] ` <200709172211.26493.phillips@phunq.net>
2007-09-18 8:11 ` Wouter Verhelst
2007-09-18 9:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-18 16:56 ` Daniel Phillips
2007-09-18 19:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-18 9:30 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-18 18:40 ` Daniel Phillips
2007-09-18 20:13 ` Mike Snitzer
2007-09-10 19:25 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-10 19:55 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-10 20:22 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-10 20:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-10-26 17:44 ` Pavel Machek
2007-10-26 17:55 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-10-27 22:58 ` Daniel Phillips
2007-10-27 23:08 ` Daniel Phillips
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