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From: mel@skynet.ie (Mel Gorman)
To: Lee Schermerhorn <Lee.Schermerhorn@hp.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org, clameter@sgi.com,
	riel@redhat.com, balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com, andrea@suse.de,
	a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl, eric.whitney@hp.com, npiggin@suse.de
Subject: Re: [PATCH/RFC 1/14] Reclaim Scalability:  Convert anon_vma lock to read/write lock
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 11:19:36 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070920101936.GA24105@skynet.ie> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1190146641.5035.80.camel@localhost>

On (18/09/07 16:17), Lee Schermerhorn didst pronounce:
> On Mon, 2007-09-17 at 12:02 +0100, Mel Gorman wrote:
> > On (14/09/07 16:54), Lee Schermerhorn didst pronounce:
> > > [PATCH/RFC] 01/14 Reclaim Scalability:  Convert anon_vma list lock a read/write lock
> > > 
> > > Against 2.6.23-rc4-mm1
> > > 
> > > Make the anon_vma list lock a read/write lock.  Heaviest use of this
> > > lock is in the page_referenced()/try_to_unmap() calls from vmscan
> > > [shrink_page_list()].  These functions can use a read lock to allow
> > > some parallelism for different cpus trying to reclaim pages mapped
> > > via the same set of vmas.
> > > 
> > > This change should not change the footprint of the anon_vma in the
> > > non-debug case.
> > > 
> > > Note:  I have seen systems livelock with all cpus in reclaim, down
> > > in page_referenced_anon() or try_to_unmap_anon() spinning on the
> > > anon_vma lock.  I have only seen this with the AIM7 benchmark with
> > > workloads of 10s of thousands of tasks.  All of these tasks are
> > > children of a single ancestor, so they all share the same anon_vma
> > > for each vm area in their respective mm's.  I'm told that Apache
> > > can fork thousands of children to handle incoming connections, and
> > > I've seen similar livelocks--albeit on the i_mmap_lock [next patch]
> > > running 1000s of Oracle users on a large ia64 platform.
> > > 
> > > With this patch [along with Rik van Riel's split LRU patch] we were
> > > able to see the AIM7 workload start swapping, instead of hanging,
> > > for the first time.  Same workload DID hang with just Rik's patch,
> > > so this patch is apparently useful.
> > > 
> > 
> > In light of what Peter and Linus said about rw-locks being more expensive
> > than spinlocks, we'll need to measure this with some benchmark. The plus
> > side is that this patch can be handled in isolation because it's either a
> > scalability fix or it isn't. It's worth investigating because you say it
> > fixed a real problem where under load the job was able to complete with
> > this patch and live-locked without it.
> > 
> > kernbench is unlikely to show up anything useful here although it might be
> > worth running anyway just in case. brk_test from aim9 might be useful as it's
> > a micro-benchmark that uses brk() which is a path affected by this patch. As
> > aim7 is exercising this path, it would be interesting to see does it show
> > performance differences in the normal non-stressed case. Other suggestions?
> 
> As Mel predicted, kernel builds don't seem to be affected by this patch,
> nor the i_mmap_lock rw_lock patch.  Below I've included results for an
> old ia64 system that I have pretty much exclusive access to.  I can't
> get 23-rc4-mm1 nor rc6-mm1 to boot on an x86_64 [AMD-based] right
> now--still trying to capture stack trace [not easy from a remote
> console :-(].  
> 

On x86_64, I got -0.34% and -0.03% regressions on two different machines with
kernbench. However, that is pretty close to noise. On a range of machines
NUMA and non-NUMA with 2.6.23-rc6-mm1 I saw Total CPU figures ranging from
-1.23% to 1.02% and -1.09% to 6.54% System CPU time. DBench figures were
from -2.54% to 4.94%.  The DBench figures tend to vary by about this much
anyway so basic smoke test at least.

hackbench (tested just in case) didn't show up anything unusual. I
didn't do scalability testing with multiple processes like aim7 yet but
so far we're looking ok.

-- 
Mel Gorman
Part-time Phd Student                          Linux Technology Center
University of Limerick                         IBM Dublin Software Lab

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  reply	other threads:[~2007-09-20 10:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-09-14 20:53 [PATCH/RFC 0/14] Page Reclaim Scalability Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-14 20:54 ` [PATCH/RFC 1/14] Reclaim Scalability: Convert anon_vma lock to read/write lock Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-17 11:02   ` Mel Gorman
2007-09-18  2:41     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-09-18 11:01       ` Mel Gorman
2007-09-18 14:57         ` Rik van Riel
2007-09-18 15:37       ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-18 20:17     ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-20 10:19       ` Mel Gorman [this message]
2007-09-14 20:54 ` [PATCH/RFC 2/14] Reclaim Scalability: convert inode i_mmap_lock to reader/writer lock Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-17 12:53   ` Mel Gorman
2007-09-20  1:24   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-09-20 14:10     ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-20 14:16       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-09-14 20:54 ` [PATCH/RFC 3/14] Reclaim Scalability: move isolate_lru_page() to vmscan.c Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-14 21:34   ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-15  1:55     ` Rik van Riel
2007-09-17 14:11     ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-17  9:20   ` Balbir Singh
2007-09-17 19:19     ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-14 20:54 ` [PATCH/RFC 4/14] Reclaim Scalability: Define page_anon() function Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-15  2:00   ` Rik van Riel
2007-09-17 13:19   ` Mel Gorman
2007-09-18  1:58   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-09-18  2:27     ` Rik van Riel
2007-09-18  2:40       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-09-18 15:04     ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-18 19:41       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19  0:30       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-09-19 16:58         ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-20  0:56           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-09-14 20:54 ` [PATCH/RFC 5/14] Reclaim Scalability: Use an indexed array for LRU variables Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-17 13:40   ` Mel Gorman
2007-09-17 14:17     ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-17 14:39       ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-17 18:58   ` Balbir Singh
2007-09-17 19:12     ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-17 19:36       ` Balbir Singh
2007-09-17 19:36     ` Rik van Riel
2007-09-17 20:21       ` Balbir Singh
2007-09-17 21:01         ` Rik van Riel
2007-09-14 20:54 ` [PATCH/RFC 6/14] Reclaim Scalability: "No Reclaim LRU Infrastructure" Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-14 22:47   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-17 15:17     ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-17 18:41       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-18  9:54         ` Mel Gorman
2007-09-18 19:45           ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19 11:11             ` Mel Gorman
2007-09-19 18:03               ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19  6:00   ` Balbir Singh
2007-09-19 14:47     ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-14 20:54 ` [PATCH/RFC 7/14] Reclaim Scalability: Non-reclaimable page statistics Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-17  1:56   ` Rik van Riel
2007-09-14 20:54 ` [PATCH/RFC 8/14] Reclaim Scalability: Ram Disk Pages are non-reclaimable Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-17  1:57   ` Rik van Riel
2007-09-17 14:40     ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-17 18:42       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-14 20:54 ` [PATCH/RFC 9/14] Reclaim Scalability: SHM_LOCKED pages are nonreclaimable Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-17  2:18   ` Rik van Riel
2007-09-14 20:55 ` [PATCH/RFC 10/14] Reclaim Scalability: track anon_vma "related vmas" Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-17  2:52   ` Rik van Riel
2007-09-17 15:52     ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-14 20:55 ` [PATCH/RFC 11/14] Reclaim Scalability: swap backed pages are nonreclaimable when no swap space available Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-17  2:53   ` Rik van Riel
2007-09-18 17:46     ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-18 20:01       ` Rik van Riel
2007-09-19 14:55         ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-18  2:59   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-09-18 15:47     ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-14 20:55 ` [PATCH/RFC 12/14] Reclaim Scalability: Non-reclaimable Mlock'ed pages Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-14 20:55 ` [PATCH/RFC 13/14] Reclaim Scalability: Handle Mlock'ed pages during map/unmap and truncate Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-14 20:55 ` [PATCH/RFC 14/14] Reclaim Scalability: cull non-reclaimable anon pages in fault path Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-14 21:11 ` [PATCH/RFC 0/14] Page Reclaim Scalability Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-14 21:42   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-09-14 22:02     ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-15  0:07       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-09-17  6:44 ` Balbir Singh

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