From: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
To: carsteno@de.ibm.com
Cc: Jared Hulbert <jaredeh@gmail.com>,
Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Martin Schwidefsky <martin.schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>,
Heiko Carstens <h.carstens@de.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [rfc][patch 0/4] VM_MIXEDMAP patchset with s390 backend
Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 12:55:36 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080108115536.GB460@wotan.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <47835FBE.8080406@de.ibm.com>
On Tue, Jan 08, 2008 at 12:34:22PM +0100, Carsten Otte wrote:
> Nick Piggin wrote:
> >I'm just curious (or forgetful) as to why s390's pfn_valid does not walk
> >your memory segments? (That would allow the s390 proof of concept to be
> >basically a noop, and mixedmap_refcount_pfn will only be required when
> >we start using another pte bit.
> Our pfn_valid uses a hardware instruction, which does check if there
> is memory behind a pfn which we can access. And we'd like to use the
> very same memory segment for both regular memory hotplug where the
> memory ends up in ZONE_NORMAL (in this case the memory would be
> read+write, and not shared with other guests), and for backing xip
> file systems (in this case the memory would be read-only, and shared).
> And in both cases, our instruction does consider the pfn to be valid.
> Thus, pfn_valid is not the right indicator for us to check if we need
> refcounting or not.
Sure, but I think pfn_valid is _supposed_ to indicate whether the pfn has
a struct page, isn't it? I think that is the case with the other standard
memory models. That would make it applicable for you (ie. if it were
implemented as mixedmap_refcount_pfn).
Is it used in any performance critical paths that it needs to be really
fast?
(Anyway, this is just an aside -- I have no real problem with
mixedmap_refcount_pfn, or using a special pte bit...)
> >I think using another bit in the pte for special mappings is reasonable.
> >As I posted in my earlier patch, we can also use it to simplify
> >vm_normal_page,
> >and it facilitates a lock free get_user_pages.
> That patch looks very nice. I am going to define PTE_SPECIAL for s390
> arch next...
Great.
> >Anyway, hmm... I guess we should probably get these patches into -mm and
> >then upstream soon. Any objections from anyone? Do you guys have
> >performance /
> >stress testing for xip?
> I think it is mature enough to push upstream, I've booted a distro
> with /usr on it.
Oh good. So just to clarify -- I guess you guys have a readonly filesystem
containing the distro on the host, and mount it XIP on each guest... avoiding
struct page means you save a bit of memory on each guest?
> But I really really want to exchange patch #4 with a
> pte-bit based one before pushing this.
OK fair enough, let's do that.
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Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-12-14 13:38 [rfc][patch 1/2] mm: introduce VM_MIXEDMAP mappings Nick Piggin
2007-12-14 13:41 ` [rfc][patch 2/2] xip: support non-struct page memory Nick Piggin
2007-12-14 13:46 ` Carsten Otte
2007-12-15 1:07 ` Jared Hulbert
2007-12-15 1:17 ` Nick Piggin
2007-12-15 6:47 ` Jared Hulbert
2007-12-19 14:04 ` Carsten Otte
2007-12-20 9:23 ` Jared Hulbert
2007-12-21 0:40 ` Nick Piggin
2007-12-20 13:53 ` Carsten Otte
2007-12-20 14:33 ` Carsten Otte
2007-12-20 14:50 ` Carsten Otte
2007-12-20 17:24 ` Jared Hulbert
2007-12-21 0:12 ` Jared Hulbert
2007-12-21 0:56 ` Nick Piggin
2007-12-21 9:56 ` Carsten Otte
2007-12-21 9:49 ` Carsten Otte
2007-12-21 0:50 ` Nick Piggin
2007-12-21 10:02 ` Carsten Otte
2007-12-21 10:14 ` Nick Piggin
2007-12-21 10:17 ` Carsten Otte
2007-12-21 10:23 ` Nick Piggin
2007-12-21 10:31 ` Carsten Otte
2007-12-21 0:45 ` Nick Piggin
2007-12-21 10:05 ` Carsten Otte
2007-12-21 10:20 ` Nick Piggin
2007-12-21 10:35 ` Carsten Otte
2007-12-21 10:47 ` Nick Piggin
2007-12-21 19:29 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2008-01-07 4:43 ` [rfc][patch] mm: use a pte bit to flag normal pages Nick Piggin
2008-01-07 10:30 ` Russell King
2008-01-07 11:14 ` Nick Piggin
2008-01-07 18:49 ` Jared Hulbert
2008-01-07 19:45 ` Russell King
2008-01-07 22:52 ` Jared Hulbert
2008-01-08 2:37 ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-08 2:49 ` Nick Piggin
2008-01-08 3:31 ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-08 3:52 ` Nick Piggin
2008-01-08 10:11 ` Catalin Marinas
2008-01-08 10:52 ` Russell King
2008-01-08 13:54 ` Catalin Marinas
2008-01-08 14:08 ` Russell King
2008-01-10 13:33 ` Carsten Otte
2008-01-10 23:18 ` Nick Piggin
2008-01-08 9:35 ` [rfc][patch 0/4] VM_MIXEDMAP patchset with s390 backend Carsten Otte
2008-01-08 10:08 ` Nick Piggin
2008-01-08 11:34 ` Carsten Otte
2008-01-08 11:55 ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2008-01-08 12:03 ` Carsten Otte
2008-01-08 13:56 ` Jörn Engel
2008-01-08 14:51 ` Carsten Otte
2008-01-08 18:09 ` Jared Hulbert
2008-01-08 22:12 ` Nick Piggin
2008-01-09 15:14 ` [rfc][patch 0/4] VM_MIXEDMAP patchset with s390 backend v2 Carsten Otte
[not found] ` <1199891032.28689.9.camel@cotte.boeblingen.de.ibm.com>
2008-01-09 15:14 ` [rfc][patch 1/4] include: add callbacks to toggle reference counting for VM_MIXEDMAP pages Carsten Otte, Carsten Otte
2008-01-09 17:31 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2008-01-09 18:17 ` Jared Hulbert
2008-01-10 7:59 ` Carsten Otte
2008-01-10 20:01 ` Jared Hulbert
2008-01-11 8:45 ` Carsten Otte
2008-01-13 2:44 ` Nick Piggin
2008-01-14 11:36 ` Carsten Otte
2008-01-16 4:04 ` Nick Piggin
2008-01-15 13:05 ` Carsten Otte
2008-01-16 4:22 ` Nick Piggin
2008-01-16 14:29 ` [rft] updated xip patch rollup Nick Piggin
2008-01-17 10:24 ` Carsten Otte
2008-01-10 20:23 ` [rfc][patch 1/4] include: add callbacks to toggle reference counting for VM_MIXEDMAP pages Jared Hulbert
2008-01-11 8:32 ` Carsten Otte
2008-01-10 0:20 ` Nick Piggin
2008-01-10 8:06 ` Carsten Otte
2008-01-09 15:14 ` [rfc][patch 2/4] mm: introduce VM_MIXEDMAP Carsten Otte, Jared Hulbert, Carsten Otte
2008-01-09 15:14 ` [rfc][patch 3/4] Convert XIP to support non-struct page backed memory Carsten Otte, Nick Piggin
2008-01-09 15:14 ` [rfc][patch 4/4] s390: remove struct page entries for DCSS memory segments Carsten Otte, Carsten Otte
[not found] ` <1199784196.25114.11.camel@cotte.boeblingen.de.ibm.com>
2008-01-08 9:35 ` [rfc][patch 1/4] mm: introduce VM_MIXEDMAP Carsten Otte, Jared Hulbert, Carsten Otte
2008-01-08 9:35 ` [rfc][patch 2/4] xip: support non-struct page memory Carsten Otte, Nick Piggin, Carsten Otte
2008-01-08 9:36 ` [rfc][patch 3/4] s390: remove sturct page entries for z/VM DCSS memory segments Carsten Otte
2008-01-08 9:36 ` [rfc][patch 4/4] s390: mixedmap_refcount_pfn implementation using list walk Carsten Otte
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