From: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
To: carsteno@de.ibm.com
Cc: Jared Hulbert <jaredeh@gmail.com>,
Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>,
Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [rfc][patch 1/4] include: add callbacks to toggle reference counting for VM_MIXEDMAP pages
Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 03:44:10 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080113024410.GA22285@wotan.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <47872CA7.40802@de.ibm.com>
On Fri, Jan 11, 2008 at 09:45:27AM +0100, Carsten Otte wrote:
> Jared Hulbert wrote:
> >>I think you're looking for
> >>pfn_has_struct_page_entry_for_it(), and that's different from the
> >>original meaning described above.
> >
> >Yes. That's what I'm looking for.
> >
> >Carsten,
> >
> >I think I get the problem now. You've been saying over and over, I
> >just didn't hear it. We are not using the same assumptions for what
> >VM_MIXEDMAP means.
> >
> >Look's like today most architectures just use pfn_valid() to see if a
> >pfn is in a valid RAM segment. The assumption used in
> >vm_normal_page() is that valid_RAM == has_page_struct. That's fine by
> >me for VM_MIXEDMAP because I'm only assuming 2 states a page can be
> >in: (1) page struct RAM (2) pfn only Flash memory ioremap()'ed in.
> >You are wanting to add a third: (3) valid RAM, pfn only mapping with
> >the ability to add a page struct when needed.
> >
> >Is this right?
> About right. There are a few differences between "valid ram" and our
> DCSS segments, but yes. Our segments are not present at system
> startup, and can be "loaded" afterwards by hypercall. Thus, they're
> not detected and initialized as regular memory.
> We have the option to add struct page entries for them. In case of
> using the segment for xip, we don't want struct page entries and
> rather prefer VM_MIXEDMAP, but with regular memory (with struct page)
> being used after cow.
You know that pfn_valid() can be changed at runtime depending on what
your intentions are for that page. It can remain false if you don't
want struct pages for it, then you can switch a flag...
> >>Jared, did you try this on arm?
> >
> >No. I'm not sure where we stand. Shall I bother or do I wait for the
> >next patch?
> I guess we should wait for Nick's patch. He has already decided not to
> go down this path.
I've just been looking at putting everything together (including the
pte_special patch). I still hit one problem with your required modification
to the filemap_xip patch.
You need to unconditionally do a vm_insert_pfn in xip_file_fault, and rely
on the pte bit to tell the rest of the VM that the page has not been
refcounted. For architectures without such a bit, this breaks VM_MIXEDMAP,
because it relies on testing pfn_valid() rather than a pte bit here.
We can go 2 ways here: either s390 can make pfn_valid() work like we'd
like; or we can have a vm_insert_mixedmap_pfn(), which has
#ifdef __HAVE_ARCH_PTE_SPECIAL
in order to do the right thing (ie. those architectures which do have pte
special can just do vm_insert_pfn, and those that don't will either do a
vm_insert_pfn or vm_insert_page depending on the result of pfn_valid).
The latter I guess is more efficient for those that do implement pte_special,
however if anything I would rather investigate that as an incremental patch
after the basics are working. It would also break the dependency of the
xip stuff on the pte_special patch, and basically make everything much
more likely to get merged IMO.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-01-13 2:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-12-14 13:38 [rfc][patch 1/2] mm: introduce VM_MIXEDMAP mappings Nick Piggin
2007-12-14 13:41 ` [rfc][patch 2/2] xip: support non-struct page memory Nick Piggin
2007-12-14 13:46 ` Carsten Otte
2007-12-15 1:07 ` Jared Hulbert
2007-12-15 1:17 ` Nick Piggin
2007-12-15 6:47 ` Jared Hulbert
2007-12-19 14:04 ` Carsten Otte
2007-12-20 9:23 ` Jared Hulbert
2007-12-21 0:40 ` Nick Piggin
2007-12-20 13:53 ` Carsten Otte
2007-12-20 14:33 ` Carsten Otte
2007-12-20 14:50 ` Carsten Otte
2007-12-20 17:24 ` Jared Hulbert
2007-12-21 0:12 ` Jared Hulbert
2007-12-21 0:56 ` Nick Piggin
2007-12-21 9:56 ` Carsten Otte
2007-12-21 9:49 ` Carsten Otte
2007-12-21 0:50 ` Nick Piggin
2007-12-21 10:02 ` Carsten Otte
2007-12-21 10:14 ` Nick Piggin
2007-12-21 10:17 ` Carsten Otte
2007-12-21 10:23 ` Nick Piggin
2007-12-21 10:31 ` Carsten Otte
2007-12-21 0:45 ` Nick Piggin
2007-12-21 10:05 ` Carsten Otte
2007-12-21 10:20 ` Nick Piggin
2007-12-21 10:35 ` Carsten Otte
2007-12-21 10:47 ` Nick Piggin
2007-12-21 19:29 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2008-01-07 4:43 ` [rfc][patch] mm: use a pte bit to flag normal pages Nick Piggin
2008-01-07 10:30 ` Russell King
2008-01-07 11:14 ` Nick Piggin
2008-01-07 18:49 ` Jared Hulbert
2008-01-07 19:45 ` Russell King
2008-01-07 22:52 ` Jared Hulbert
2008-01-08 2:37 ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-08 2:49 ` Nick Piggin
2008-01-08 3:31 ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-08 3:52 ` Nick Piggin
2008-01-08 10:11 ` Catalin Marinas
2008-01-08 10:52 ` Russell King
2008-01-08 13:54 ` Catalin Marinas
2008-01-08 14:08 ` Russell King
2008-01-10 13:33 ` Carsten Otte
2008-01-10 23:18 ` Nick Piggin
2008-01-08 9:35 ` [rfc][patch 0/4] VM_MIXEDMAP patchset with s390 backend Carsten Otte
2008-01-08 10:08 ` Nick Piggin
2008-01-08 11:34 ` Carsten Otte
2008-01-08 11:55 ` Nick Piggin
2008-01-08 12:03 ` Carsten Otte
2008-01-08 13:56 ` Jörn Engel
2008-01-08 14:51 ` Carsten Otte
2008-01-08 18:09 ` Jared Hulbert
2008-01-08 22:12 ` Nick Piggin
2008-01-09 15:14 ` [rfc][patch 0/4] VM_MIXEDMAP patchset with s390 backend v2 Carsten Otte
[not found] ` <1199891032.28689.9.camel@cotte.boeblingen.de.ibm.com>
2008-01-09 15:14 ` [rfc][patch 1/4] include: add callbacks to toggle reference counting for VM_MIXEDMAP pages Carsten Otte, Carsten Otte
2008-01-09 17:31 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2008-01-09 18:17 ` Jared Hulbert
2008-01-10 7:59 ` Carsten Otte
2008-01-10 20:01 ` Jared Hulbert
2008-01-11 8:45 ` Carsten Otte
2008-01-13 2:44 ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2008-01-14 11:36 ` Carsten Otte
2008-01-16 4:04 ` Nick Piggin
2008-01-15 13:05 ` Carsten Otte
2008-01-16 4:22 ` Nick Piggin
2008-01-16 14:29 ` [rft] updated xip patch rollup Nick Piggin
2008-01-17 10:24 ` Carsten Otte
2008-01-10 20:23 ` [rfc][patch 1/4] include: add callbacks to toggle reference counting for VM_MIXEDMAP pages Jared Hulbert
2008-01-11 8:32 ` Carsten Otte
2008-01-10 0:20 ` Nick Piggin
2008-01-10 8:06 ` Carsten Otte
2008-01-09 15:14 ` [rfc][patch 2/4] mm: introduce VM_MIXEDMAP Carsten Otte, Jared Hulbert, Carsten Otte
2008-01-09 15:14 ` [rfc][patch 3/4] Convert XIP to support non-struct page backed memory Carsten Otte, Nick Piggin
2008-01-09 15:14 ` [rfc][patch 4/4] s390: remove struct page entries for DCSS memory segments Carsten Otte, Carsten Otte
[not found] ` <1199784196.25114.11.camel@cotte.boeblingen.de.ibm.com>
2008-01-08 9:35 ` [rfc][patch 1/4] mm: introduce VM_MIXEDMAP Carsten Otte, Jared Hulbert, Carsten Otte
2008-01-08 9:35 ` [rfc][patch 2/4] xip: support non-struct page memory Carsten Otte, Nick Piggin, Carsten Otte
2008-01-08 9:36 ` [rfc][patch 3/4] s390: remove sturct page entries for z/VM DCSS memory segments Carsten Otte
2008-01-08 9:36 ` [rfc][patch 4/4] s390: mixedmap_refcount_pfn implementation using list walk Carsten Otte
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