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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Fengguang Wu <wfg@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
Cc: Michael Rubin <mrubin@google.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [patch] Converting writeback linked lists to a tree based data structure
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 19:44:15 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080115194415.64ba95f2.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <400452490.28636@ustc.edu.cn>

On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 11:01:08 +0800 Fengguang Wu <wfg@mail.ustc.edu.cn> wrote:

> On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 09:53:42AM -0800, Michael Rubin wrote:
> > On Jan 15, 2008 12:46 AM, Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl> wrote:
> > > Just a quick question, how does this interact/depend-uppon etc.. with
> > > Fengguangs patches I still have in my mailbox? (Those from Dec 28th)
> > 
> > They don't. They apply to a 2.6.24rc7 tree. This is a candidte for 2.6.25.
> > 
> > This work was done before Fengguang's patches. I am trying to test
> > Fengguang's for comparison but am having problems with getting mm1 to
> > boot on my systems.
> 
> Yeah, they are independent ones. The initial motivation is to fix the
> bug "sluggish writeback on small+large files". Michael introduced
> a new rbtree, and me introduced a new list(s_more_io_wait).
> 
> Basically I think rbtree is an overkill to do time based ordering.
> Sorry, Michael. But s_dirty would be enough for that. Plus, s_more_io
> provides fair queuing between small/large files, and s_more_io_wait
> provides waiting mechanism for blocked inodes.
> 
> The time ordered rbtree may delay io for a blocked inode simply by
> modifying its dirtied_when and reinsert it. But it would no longer be
> that easy if it is to be ordered by location.

What does the term "ordered by location" mean?  Attemting to sort inodes by
physical disk address?  By using their i_ino as a key?

That sounds optimistic.

> If we are going to do location based ordering in the future, the lists
> will continue to be useful. It would simply be a matter of switching
> from the s_dirty(order by time) to some rbtree or radix tree(order by
> location).
> 
> We can even provide both ordering at the same time to different
> fs/inodes which is configurable by the user. Because the s_dirty
> and/or rbtree would provide _only_ ordering(not faireness or waiting)
> and hence is interchangeable.
> 
> This patchset could be a good reference. It does location based
> ordering with radix tree:
> 
> [RFC][PATCH] clustered writeback <http://lkml.org/lkml/2007/8/27/45>

list_heads are just the wrong data structure for this function.  Especially
list_heads which are protected by a non-sleeping lock.

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  reply	other threads:[~2008-01-16  3:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-01-15  8:09 [patch] Converting writeback linked lists to a tree based data structure Michael Rubin, Michael Rubin
2008-01-15  8:46 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-01-15 17:53   ` Michael Rubin
     [not found]     ` <E1JEyWa-0001Ys-F9@localhost.localdomain>
2008-01-16  3:01       ` Fengguang Wu
2008-01-16  3:44         ` Andrew Morton [this message]
     [not found]           ` <E1JEzqb-0003YX-Rg@localhost.localdomain>
2008-01-16  4:25             ` Fengguang Wu
2008-01-16  4:42               ` Andrew Morton
     [not found]                 ` <E1JF0It-0000yD-Mi@localhost.localdomain>
2008-01-16  4:55                   ` Fengguang Wu
2008-01-16  5:51                     ` Andrew Morton
     [not found]                       ` <E1JF4Ey-0000x4-5p@localhost.localdomain>
2008-01-16  9:07                         ` Fengguang Wu
2008-01-18  7:36                           ` Mike Waychison
2008-01-16 22:35                         ` David Chinner
     [not found]                           ` <E1JFLEW-0002oE-G1@localhost.localdomain>
2008-01-17  3:16                             ` Fengguang Wu
2008-01-17  5:21                             ` David Chinner
2008-01-16  7:55           ` David Chinner
2008-01-16  8:13             ` Andrew Morton
     [not found]               ` <E1JF7yp-0006l8-5P@localhost.localdomain>
2008-01-16 13:06                 ` Fengguang Wu
2008-01-16 18:55         ` Michael Rubin
     [not found]           ` <E1JFLTR-0002pn-4Y@localhost.localdomain>
2008-01-17  3:31             ` Fengguang Wu
     [not found] ` <E1JFRFm-00011Q-0q@localhost.localdomain>
2008-01-17  9:41   ` Fengguang Wu
2008-01-17 21:07     ` Michael Rubin
     [not found]       ` <E1JFjGz-0001eU-3O@localhost.localdomain>
2008-01-18  4:56         ` Fengguang Wu
2008-01-18  5:41           ` Andi Kleen
     [not found]             ` <E1JFkHy-0001jR-VD@localhost.localdomain>
2008-01-18  6:01               ` Fengguang Wu
2008-01-18  7:48             ` Mike Waychison
2008-01-18  6:43           ` Michael Rubin
     [not found]             ` <E1JFnZz-00015z-Vq@localhost.localdomain>
2008-01-18  9:32               ` Fengguang Wu
2008-01-18  5:01       ` David Chinner
2008-01-18  5:38         ` Michael Rubin
2008-01-18  8:54           ` David Chinner
2008-01-18  9:26             ` Michael Rubin
     [not found]         ` <E1JFjyv-0001hU-FA@localhost.localdomain>
2008-01-18  5:41           ` Fengguang Wu
2008-01-19  2:50           ` David Chinner
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-12-13  0:32 Michael Rubin, Michael Rubin

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