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From: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@qumranet.com>
To: Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>
Cc: Robin Holt <holt@sgi.com>, Avi Kivity <avi@qumranet.com>,
	Izik Eidus <izike@qumranet.com>,
	kvm-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	steiner@sgi.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, daniel.blueman@quadrics.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mmu notifiers #v5
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 19:08:02 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080205180802.GE7441@v2.random> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0802042206200.6739@schroedinger.engr.sgi.com>

On Mon, Feb 04, 2008 at 10:11:24PM -0800, Christoph Lameter wrote:
> Zero problems only if you find having a single callout for every page 
> acceptable. So the invalidate_range in your patch is only working 

invalidate_pages is only a further optimization that was
strightforward in some places where the page isn't freed but only the
pte modified.

> sometimes. And even if it works then it has to be used on 2M range. Seems 
> to be a bit fragile and needlessly complex.

The patch as a whole isn't fragile nor complex. Pretending to use
invalidate_pages anywhere would be complex (and in turn more fragile
than my current patch, complexity brings fragility).

Overall you can only argue against performance issues (my patch is
simpler for GRU/KVM, and it sure isn't fragile, quite the opposite,
given I never allow a coherency-loss between two threads that will
read/write to two different physical pages for the same virtual
adddress in remap_file_pages).

In performance terms with your patch before GRU can run follow_page it
has to take a mm-wide global mutex where each thread in all cpus will
have to take it. That will trash on >4-way when the tlb misses start
to occour. There's nothing like that in my patch. Your approach will
micro-optimize certain large pte-mangling calls, or do_exit, but those
aren't interesting paths nor for GRU nor for KVM. You're optimizing for
the slow path, and making the fast path slower.

> "conversion of some page in pages"? A proposal to defer the freeing of the 
> pages until after the pte_unlock?

There can be many tricks to optimize page in pages, but again munmap
and do_exit aren't the interesting path to optimzie, nor for GRU nor
for KVM so it doesn't matter right now.

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  reply	other threads:[~2008-02-05 18:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-01-31  4:57 [patch 0/3] [RFC] MMU Notifiers V4 Christoph Lameter
2008-01-31  4:57 ` [patch 1/3] mmu_notifier: Core code Christoph Lameter
2008-02-01  1:56   ` Jack Steiner
2008-02-01  2:24     ` Robin Holt
2008-02-01  2:37       ` Jack Steiner
2008-02-01  2:39         ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-01  2:31   ` Robin Holt
2008-02-01  2:39     ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-01  2:47       ` Robin Holt
2008-02-01  3:01         ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-01  3:01       ` Jack Steiner
2008-02-01  3:03         ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-01  3:52   ` Robin Holt
2008-02-01  3:58     ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-01  4:15       ` Robin Holt
2008-02-03  1:33       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-04 19:13         ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-31  4:57 ` [patch 2/3] mmu_notifier: Callbacks to invalidate address ranges Christoph Lameter
2008-01-31 12:31   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-31 20:07     ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-31 22:01     ` mmu_notifier: close hole in fork Christoph Lameter
2008-01-31 22:16       ` mmu_notifier: reduce size of mm_struct if !CONFIG_MMU_NOTIFIER Christoph Lameter
2008-01-31 22:21       ` mmu_notifier: Move mmu_notifier_release up to get rid of the invalidat_all() callback Christoph Lameter
2008-02-01  0:13         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-01  1:52           ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-01  1:57           ` mmu_notifier: invalidate_range for move_page_tables Christoph Lameter
2008-02-01  2:38             ` Robin Holt
2008-02-01  2:41               ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-01  0:01       ` mmu_notifier: close hole in fork Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-01  1:48         ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-01  4:24   ` [patch 2/3] mmu_notifier: Callbacks to invalidate address ranges Robin Holt
2008-02-01  4:43     ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-01 10:32       ` Robin Holt
2008-02-01 10:37         ` Robin Holt
2008-02-01 19:13         ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-31  4:57 ` [patch 3/3] mmu_notifier: invalidate_page callbacks Christoph Lameter
2008-01-31 17:18 ` [PATCH] mmu notifiers #v5 Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-31 20:18   ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-31 23:09     ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-31 23:41       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-01  1:44         ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-01 12:09           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-01 19:23             ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-03  2:17               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-03  3:14                 ` Jack Steiner
2008-02-03  3:33                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-04 19:09                 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-05  5:25                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-05  6:11                     ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-05 18:08                       ` Andrea Arcangeli [this message]
2008-02-05 18:17                         ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-05 20:55                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-05 22:06                             ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-05 22:12                               ` Robin Holt
2008-02-05 22:26                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-05 23:10                                 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-05 23:47                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-06  0:04                                     ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-31 23:28     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-01  1:37       ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-01  2:23         ` Robin Holt
2008-02-01  2:26           ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-01 12:00         ` Andrea Arcangeli

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